Quick, go get your 2002 owners manuals. Look carefully at page 221, the security system section.
I quote:
"With the system set, you can still open the tailgate with the master key or the remote transmitter without triggering the alarm. The alarm will sound if the tailgate lock is forced, or the tailgate is opened with the tailgate release handle."
Can someone check my translation of this?
As far as I know, there is currently NO WAY to open the tailgate without using the tailgate release handle, period. But this paragraph says that this can set off the alarm, if the alarm is set. Huh?
But Honda is saying that you CAN open the tailgate (???!???!!!!??) *without* triggering the alarm if you use either of the master key or the remote transmitter.
Huh?
For one, the remote transmitter doesn't today operate the tailgate in any way, shape, or form. Does this paragraph hint that a power tailgate is in the Odyssey's near future? Or did they just write this paragraph REALLY REALLY badly?
Secondly, using the master key on the tailgate operates EVERY lock, for both locking and unlocking. So if I "use the master key to open the tailgate", by definition the security system is turned off.
I can't fathom what they meant by "using the master key to operate the tailgate"--unless a future power tailgate will operate this way.
<sigh> If you run this through KISS, you don't get such exotic ideas. They probably just worded the whole thing extremely badly. Sure, if you use the remote transmitter (to unlock the van) or the master key (to unlock the van), the security system won't sound--not because you're working the tailgate but because you've unlocked the van, which turns the security system off.
I'll take this opportunity to point out another flaw in the user manual. Also on page 221:
"For the system to activate, you must lock the doors from the outside with the key, or remote transmitter."
Wrong. If you hit the power lock button on the driver's inside door and then close it, the security system activates as per the red flashing light on the tach.
Also, if you lock the van using the master key in the tailgate lock, the security system activates.
Methinks the writers either weren't sure how to work what they had, or had very pre-release information and equipment to work with when they wrote this page.
Me, I believe in KISS. They wrote this whole page very badly. But for you conspiracy theorists out there, start holding your breath for a power tailgate in the next few months. It seems they've already written some documentation for it.
I quote:
"With the system set, you can still open the tailgate with the master key or the remote transmitter without triggering the alarm. The alarm will sound if the tailgate lock is forced, or the tailgate is opened with the tailgate release handle."
Can someone check my translation of this?
As far as I know, there is currently NO WAY to open the tailgate without using the tailgate release handle, period. But this paragraph says that this can set off the alarm, if the alarm is set. Huh?
But Honda is saying that you CAN open the tailgate (???!???!!!!??) *without* triggering the alarm if you use either of the master key or the remote transmitter.
Huh?
For one, the remote transmitter doesn't today operate the tailgate in any way, shape, or form. Does this paragraph hint that a power tailgate is in the Odyssey's near future? Or did they just write this paragraph REALLY REALLY badly?
Secondly, using the master key on the tailgate operates EVERY lock, for both locking and unlocking. So if I "use the master key to open the tailgate", by definition the security system is turned off.
I can't fathom what they meant by "using the master key to operate the tailgate"--unless a future power tailgate will operate this way.
<sigh> If you run this through KISS, you don't get such exotic ideas. They probably just worded the whole thing extremely badly. Sure, if you use the remote transmitter (to unlock the van) or the master key (to unlock the van), the security system won't sound--not because you're working the tailgate but because you've unlocked the van, which turns the security system off.
I'll take this opportunity to point out another flaw in the user manual. Also on page 221:
"For the system to activate, you must lock the doors from the outside with the key, or remote transmitter."
Wrong. If you hit the power lock button on the driver's inside door and then close it, the security system activates as per the red flashing light on the tach.
Also, if you lock the van using the master key in the tailgate lock, the security system activates.
Methinks the writers either weren't sure how to work what they had, or had very pre-release information and equipment to work with when they wrote this page.
Me, I believe in KISS. They wrote this whole page very badly. But for you conspiracy theorists out there, start holding your breath for a power tailgate in the next few months. It seems they've already written some documentation for it.
