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are going up in price. They are going up about $20 in the next 3 weeks or so. Just a heads up for anyone planning to buy shortly.

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Trevor -

I sent you an email several days ago...do you check it regularly? I'll resend now since I see you're online


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Hi,

I had typed the reply to your email and had done everything except hit "send" on it. Sorry for the delay.

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Thanks Trevor -

We've chatted already, obviously.

I have a question for anybody with cross-bars: Can you position them anywhere along the roof rails, or do they have to line up with the little notch, like it shows in the instruction sheet? If I can't position them where I want (coupled with the fact that they are not to be used with cargo boxes) I guess I'll go the Yakima Double-Cross route.

- Darell

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OK, still looking for my answer from above...

Also, I just had the brilliant thought: What if the price increase of the X-bars was due to the bars being redesigned so they can withstand some uplift, and will actually WORK with a cargo box? Any idea if the part number is changing?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by darelldd:

I have a question for anybody with cross-bars: Can you position them anywhere along the roof rails, or do they have to line up with the little notch, like it shows in the instruction sheet? If I can't position them where I want (coupled with the fact that they are not to be used with cargo boxes) I guess I'll go the Yakima Double-Cross route.

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I moved the front bar nearly half of the distance back to the rear bar. It is hard for one person to move, you have to keep switching sides or reach the center of the bar to make sure it moves equally on both ends. Otherwise, the front bar seems designed to move to where ever you need it.




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Hmm. Interesting...thanks.

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OK, now I am intrigued. I ordered the crossbars when I ordered the van. We have a plastic cargo box we use with our Explorer. As long as I can move the crossbars to the appropriate position, why would they not work?
 

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czygmont,

I believe that darelldd's post is in regard to another posted topic regarding the safety of the Honda crossbars when using cargo boxes. The big picture is that neither Honda nor two of the major cargo box manufacturers (Thule and Yakima) recommend using the Honda crossbars with cargo boxes. The claim is the uplift forces are greater than the crossbars may be able to handle. For the details, try a search for "Honda Crossbars" or the poster, albaby I believe. That particular thread has views on both sides. Ultimately the decision is yours.

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Jeff is correct. If the search engine worked better, I'd post the link. The thread is well worth reading. I think it is entitled something like: "Honda cross bars may be unsafe" it it was started by albaby.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Why is the price increasing> Did they do anything to improve them?</font>
No indication of any changes to them. The price actually went up at the start of the month but we have enough in stock that we bought at the old price so we didn't have to raise the price right away.

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I just checked my invoice from B.C. Imports www.hparts.com. I paid 78.72 for the xbars. The new price at BC is 118.08!!! Surely can't be the same part.
I also noticed that my invoice has a statement that says 666363 is replacing the part number (604276)for the bars. I wonder what the significance of that is! Why would they change the part number if all they are changing is the price? I wonder if Trevor has a new 666363 xbar to compare to 604276? That seems like a pretty hefty price increase if there was no improvement in the product. I imagine dealers would discount and try to get rid of the old models if an improved version is available. Just wondering.

Also noticed the "list price" on the bars when I bought them in May was $107. HandA "list price" presently is $139

In edit-looked at an accessory price list that I picked up from a dealer when I was shopping for an Ody. That "list price" for the crossbars was $149, so i guess "list price" is whatever the seller says it is, unlike MSRP.
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Just had a "live online chat" with a rep at B.C. Imports and he said that the "Xbars have been redesigned to cut down on wind noise, which has been a major complaint in the past". I also called their attention to the fact that their web site listed the capacity of the bars as 100# VS 150# and the capacity of the trailer hitch as 1000# vs 3500#. They said the 1000# was in error, but did not reply to the 100#. Doesn't anyone check this stuff anymore?
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I called "Charisma" last Thurs.(9/27) but her answering machine said she was out of town Thurs. and Fri. I left my name, phone number, and topic but I have not recieved a reply-nor do I expect to. This is the third call that was not returned. I guess I have to accept this inaction as a show of Honda's concern for this safety topic.
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Dang. That's no good.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Surely can't be the same part.
I also noticed that my invoice has a statement that says 666363 is replacing the part number (604276)for the bars</font>
Honda changed the crossbars slightly several months ago. They went to wider ones witht he new part# on them. I was surprised at the time that the price stayed the same, but wasn't expecting the increase they finally went with.

We were able to leave our price the same for awhile after the change because we stock so many of them we had plenty that we bought at the old price (although still the new style).

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After reading the posts regarding the Honda cross bars not being safe or recommended to be used with cargo boxes (per Honda?) I would like to know who has purchased cross bars for their 2002 EX...Yakima (what model) or Thule (what model) Why did you choose one over the other?
Thanks from a waiting newbie whose gathering the necessary info before diving into the pond.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by schnauzer:
After reading the posts regarding the Honda cross bars not being safe or recommended to be used with cargo boxes (per Honda?) I would like to know who has purchased cross bars for their 2002 EX...Yakima (what model) or Thule (what model) Why did you choose one over the other?
Thanks from a waiting newbie whose gathering the necessary info before diving into the pond.

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I use Thule cross bars on my EX. Specifically, the 415 foot pack and the 50" load bars.

I use these because they were salvaged from my Volvo wagon (what's better than free?!)


My experience is:
1) They are SOLID! They will not come off the van short of ripping the entire rack off the roof.

2) Infinitely adjustable along the length of the side rails.

3) Lockable (with the optional locks).

4) Wonderful with a Thule cargo box. We used one for a 2000 mile trip last summer and it was fantastic. No instability there!

5) Attachements available to carry anything.

6) Perfect for carrying home 4x8 sheets of whatever when you have the kids with you.

The only downsides are:
1) Not the quietest at highway speeds.

2) Not the prettiest setup on the block, but again, VERY solid.

Chuck K. has this setup also, with the Thule bike carrier. I haven't attempted to put a bike on top of the van since I might need oxygen to get up that high!

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