working internet dept works, exl msrp-1800
a bit about me first. i am not with any dealership, nor with honda, or any other car manufacturer, etc. just a regular guy trying to get the best deal and hopefully seeing the state of electronic commerence.
here are my travels.
so many people to thank for tips on dealing, dealerships that deal and my friends at
www.edmunds.com for similar info.
Did all of my research thru edmunds.com and odyclub.com, generating a list of dealers to contacts thru these sites and used hondacars.com to get dealers not found in those sites and to check the dealers inventories for odyssey stock. i contacted 58 dealers from portions of NJ,NY,CT,PA,DE,OH,TX,FL,MD via email ( 437 emails over 29 days, 11/15/02, to the end 12/14/02).
Some of the dealers denied ever making those deals found in these threads. Others ignored my emails. Other dealers responded to my emails with 'come in an lets talk' to which i responded that i wanted a written log of what was said an agreed to. A rare few treated email like a regular way of communication.
I quickly found out that no nyc area dealer, which i live around, would deal. most offered msrp, some offered msrp-350 if i waited 2 months. further pushing showing other areas around the country prices let to a mostly msrp - 500.i know this excludes staten island honda which some have used for msrp-1200 or so, but they would never return my numerous emails. if telephone usage is an option for you, other swear by Eric Tisdel at that dealership for good pricing.
i expanded my search to every dealership in NJ, western CT, albany Ny south, which did not find much difference to the msrp - 500.
by now i kinda opened up PA,DE,MD but i received a very low response rate and those who did where not offering much of a deal.
TX and FL dealers where dealing ( from internet research ) but email seemed like a foreign concept to them. I only got a few replies and were relatively worthless. only one gave me decent email service and good prices, southeastern honda but the old wait list applied and was not eager to work shipping options.
OH dealers where dealing ( from internet research ) and they spoke and treated email like a way of doing business. I was seeing prices that more than paid for shipping from OH or going their myself.
One really stood out. A straight shooter, dennis jenkins at jay honda ( cleveland area ). during my travels in these threads for the lowest price that i could confirm with dealers, i would present them to dennis and he would equal them, with his manager after awhile once the prices got below some magical area. when my wife went thru varying odyssey trim lines, dennis was a real trooper, very professional and would get right on our new request. i have to say by far the best experience in any online shopping i have ever had. real customer service thru email. He even researched and offered, at his costs, several options on shipping to NJ.
So with my ford windstar lease expiring i came to the conclusion that dennis had the best offer, best customer support and more than earned my business. I saved enough money to ship the odyssey to NJ, then back to cleveland, then back to NJ, then back to cleveland or just pickup a one-way $111 amtrak business class ticket to cleveland and save even more. ok i have my limitations, a $80 greyhound i cant do.
If you dont like talking to dealers, want to do just email( my first phone contact was to give my CC deposit after i had the Vin number , the offer sheet faxed, it was in-stock, etc. ) want straight honest talk, no dealer pressure for add-ons, no surprises, contact dennis at jay honda and tell him s roberts sent ya lol.
I got my red EX-L for around $27000, $50 doc fee, 19.75 temp OH tags ( to drive home if i want to ). sales tax to be paid to nj when i reg it their.
enjoy your travels.....