Perhaps you mean gen 5? Honda started making Odyssey's in 1995, so the 2nd gen started in 1999. 3rd in 2005, 4th 2011, 5th 2018. 2025 is technically a 6th gen, but they barely changed anything. The 5th gen do not have a ECO light. They also have VCM3 that shuts down 3 cylinders at a time only under light load. Very different than the truly variable set up Honda used in some models starting in 2008 and all 2011-2017. We have an Acura with VCM3 and I never muzzled the VCM. The plugs came out clean 95K when they got replaced early. Of course that could be because that RDX never really lugged like a big heavy Odyssey. Or perhaps my wife just kept her foot in it. I know I find it hard not to when I drive it. Imagine having this V-6 in a CRV, that is what the RDX was in 2013-2018. Still available as a Honda Passport.