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Ther was an article in today's Columbus Dispatch about a guy in Kansas who has a '93 Accord wagon the just turned 1,000,000 miles! The cool thing about it is that Honda gave him the car in 1992 (and let him drive it off the line in Marysville) in trade for his 1986 Accord (which he racked up 615,000 miles! :eek: ) at the the 10 year anniversary of the Marysville plant.

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  • He spent about 2 years (since 1992) in his car!
  • His first Accord was purchased in 1976 and put 115,000 miles on it.
  • He spent $70,000 in gas, maintanence and repairs in the past 10 years.
  • He drives 750 miles a day as a courier for canceled checks.
  • "He's one of Honda's best customers,'' Honda Vice President Rick Schostek said. Do you think GM or Ford would say that about a guy who puts an average of 576,000 miles per car?
  • It's the original engine and transmission, but he's on his third clutch and 30 somethingth sets of tires.
  • He crossed the million mile mark in front of the Marysville factory as a part of the 20 year anniversay of Accord production there.
  • He's going to drive it until it quits.
Here's the link to the articles, unfortunately you may have to sign up to view them:

Honda's 'bold move' paid off

Kansas man has a million reasons to drive a Honda
 

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WOW, He drives 750 miles a day!! I take it he lives in the car too, and he is prabally divorsed.

Wonder how many timing belts he went though.
 

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It says he spent $70,000 on repairs over 10 years. I would used that money to change vehicles to newer ones several times over that time. That way I would know I am driving a reliable vehicle rather than a high milear.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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I am more amazed at people racking up that kind of mileage without a major accident! Maybe Honda should give him an Ody so we can have high-mileage research feedback.
Maybe he was determined to keep driving until he heard back from his new car customer survey :D hehe....couldn't resist Honda!
 

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750 miles a day? If he works a 10 hr day, that's averaging 75 mph. Does the article give any specifics to his work day/ route?

I don't what to pay to read these articles and find this incredible.

If he drives 100,000 miles/year and averages 417 miles a day, five days a week for 48 weeks a year, he could still do it and it would make allot more sense. That would still be averaging about 53 mph for a 8 hr day or 42 mph for a 10 hr day and allow time for stops and maintenance on the car.
 
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dgs said:
[*]It's the original engine and transmission, but he's on his third clutch and 30 somethingth sets of tires.
Now that's amazing. Over 1M on the engine and each clutch going ~300K!
 

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$70,000 is pretty impressive.

At 30 mpg and $1.50 a gallon, $50,000 of that is just gas.
If he changed oil every 4,000 miles @$25, that's $6,250
Clutch: [email protected]$800 = $2,400
Tires every 75k miles @$250.00=$3,250
Timing belts every 100k miles @ $400 = $4,000

That leaves only $4,000 for all other regular maintenance and any repairs! He must do some work himself. That just can't be real at that price. By the time you take out all other planned maintenance, you'd have no money left. Does anybody believe any car can go a million miles on the original: water pump, AC system, tie rod ends, CV joints, ball joints or shocks? Maybe he bought the little publicized million mile Honda Care policy?

But before anybody gets too smug, consider this: Almost every taxi cab company in America uses rear wheel drive Detroit models. And I don't think it's just out of patriotic loyalty!
 

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Well how about the downtime with his car in the shop for that servicing too? I would love to see the log, for nothing more than the logistics of this mileage. As mentioned, unless Honda had some special weekend service for him I would think that downtime could be literally weeks added up? Which of course would effect daily mileage. Perhaps Donna can tell us about this unique warranty package? hehe...
There are some tractor (units)-trailers out there with a million miles, most aren't 'broken-in' until 300k. Working at a dealership we saw many one-ton dually Cummins turbo-diesel's hauling three car fifth wheel trailers with 400k+, in fact the biggest factor for them was body rust/body mount issues/metal fatigue.
Don't forget that many taxi-cabs are using 'used' Crown Vics bought at City auctions (at least around here in AZ) which maybe a factor in their prevelance?
 

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$70,000 is pretty impressive.

At 30 mpg and $1.50 a gallon, $50,000 of that is just gas.
If he changed oil every 4,000 miles @$25, that's $6,250
Clutch: [email protected]$800 = $2,400
Tires every 75k miles @$250.00=$3,250
Timing belts every 100k miles @ $400 = $4,000

That leaves only $4,000 for all other regular maintenance and any repairs!
Given that a lot of those miles were highway miles I wouldn't be surprised if he got better mileage maybe even 33 MPG, and I imagine that the average cost of his fuel, over the last ten years, could have been less than $1.50 a gallon, say maybe $1.30. Also with such high mileage he would not need to change oil so often say only every 7,500 miles. These two things combined could have freed up around $13500 for other repairs and maintenance.
 

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Gulu said:
It says he spent $70,000 on repairs over 10 years. I would used that money to change vehicles to newer ones several times over that time. That way I would know I am driving a reliable vehicle rather than a high milear.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Gulu.
As someone pointed out, that's gas, oil, everything. Let's add in $30K for the car (even though it was free to him) and a high guess of $2,000 a year for insurance. That's $120,000 :eek:, a bunch of dough. But, that averages out to be only $0.12 per mile! I keep pretty good records of my car costs, and by comparison, my Ody (which I've had almost a year) is $.319 per mile without insurance costs. I've had my Escort for 7 years (over 110,000 of my own miles) and it's been pretty trouble free, and it's at $.236 without insurance.

If you want to avoid a 'high mile' car, you'd need 10 vehicles to get a million miles, but let's allow 125K or so. That's 8 cars. Let's say you're frugal and get by at a $15K average price, and lets assume that all of the $70K was repair and you manage to eliminate it. Insurance is still $2,000 so your total is $140,000. That's $.14 per mile, based on some unrealistic assumptions. Realistically, 10 cars at $25K each, plus Honda Care to avoid repair costs at $900 each, plus gas at about $40K (33 MPG, $1.30 per gal.) and $2,000 for insurance. That's $301,000 or $0.301 per mile. What could you do with the extra $181,000? :D
 

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Of course wouldn't it be smarter to buy new every few years as this 'business' vehicle could be written off on taxes? (I am not an accountant nor stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night:) )
Yet another leap into my curious questions!...is it possible for a manufacturer to build a better 'one-off' model, could this have occured with the donation from Honda with the expectation that he would be putting some huge miles on the car/publicity/etc
...kind of like engine blueprinting/better suspension bushings/upgraded clutch/etc?
I understand that when manufacturer's try to break records such as highest sustained speed for 24hrs the 'rules' dictate that cars are randomly picked off the assembly line.
Therefore is is possible to build a better mousetrap?:confused:
 

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You mean it has no residual value? And I thought Hondas retained their value better than most. :)
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Yea, I realized later that I assumed you drove it 100K and junked it. Oops. So, if you got half back every year on trade, that's $12,500 times 9 (you still own #10), or $112,500. You're still ahead $68,500, $56K if you sell #10.

I bet his 1,000,000 mile car has no residual value in the used car market. Honda may want it, but I doubt anyone else does.
 

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Yea, I realized later that I assumed you drove it 100K and junked it. Oops. So, if you got half back every year on trade, that's $12,500 times 9 (you still own #10), or $112,500. You're still ahead $68,500, $56K if you sell #10.

I bet his 1,000,000 mile car has no residual value in the used car market. Honda may want it, but I doubt anyone else does.
The Million Mile Honda I read about in Motor Trend was sold back to the selling dealer. Talk about a great promotional piece! If I were a dealer, it would have a center stage spot in my showroom. I do not remember what the deal was, whether he got a new vehicle or what, but, I do remember a fella who drove a MBenz a million and was rewarded with a new model from MB. I do not have time to drive that far, Hee! Hee!

I just dug out the Motor Trend in question, the August '02 issue, and the story is interesting. Component lives claimed were: clutches, 500K each; fuel pumps, ditto; alternator 430K; a balljoint broke at 600K; five radiators were needed; five-speed transmission and muffler are original; and the only engine repairs have been ANNUAL, read 130K, timing belt and waterpump replacements and some VTEC servo oil leak repairs. Interestingly, he used Castrol Syntec motor oil. He was a mapper for a courier company and said he never shut the motor off long enough for corrosion to take its usual toll on engine or exhaust. The dealer tech who maintained the car kept the records by writing them on the underside of the hood and felt the car had lots more miles left in it, saying it still runs like new, even though it rattles a bit more than others of that year. Interesting.

Jerry O.

Jerry O.
 
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