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My Tighten Fuel Cap Saga

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#1 ·
I have been battling an intermittent "Tighten Fuel Cap" message since we bought our 07 about 5 months/7,000 miles ago. In the beginning it would eventually trigger a P0455/P0456 check engine light. I replaced the purge valve solenoid and the gas cap with Honda OEM parts and checked all of the lines (they were good), and with the exception of not threading in the gas cap properly and forgetting to hook up a hose after adjusting the valves, no messages or lights had come back to haunt me.

After filling up the tank this past Sunday, the "Tighten Fuel Cap" message came back up. When I got home I check to see if I screwed up the threading of the gas cap and I had not. After cycling the ignition a few times, the message went away. Drove it for about 10 miles and I was then bathed in the warm amber glow of the check engine light.

This time the codes were P145C and P0497. Thinking the purge valve solenoid may have checked out prematurely, I took a look at the live data and it showed the EVAP PCT(%) operating normally depending on the load of the engine. I cleared the codes and they stayed gone for about 30 miles then reappeared. I cleared them again, let the van sit overnight, then they reappeared this morning (before up to operating temp) within about 5 miles. I again cleared them, and they stayed gone.

Driving here a few minutes ago, the Tighten Fuel Cap message came on again, but no CEL. I read the pending codes and it is showing a P145C pending. I cleaned the mating surfaces of the gas cap/filler neck since they were looking a little black, cycled the ignition a few times, but the Tighten Fuel Cap message is still there with the P145C pending.

I am sure it is only a matter of time before the P145C comes back on. Based on my research, that code is pointing to the EVAP canister that is under the drivers side of the vehicle.

Before I plunk down $140 or so on a new one, does anyone have any thoughts or other things I should check first?
 
#2 · (Edited)
It happened to me also on my 06 Ody. I bought a replacement cap non-OEM a Stant I believe it occured a few times also then never occured again. There is a thread or two on this subject with solutions, it has been so long ago I have forgotten where. Yes that part sits in front of the notorious VTEC Spool Valve assembly ! It could also be a cracked or loosened hose connected to the 2x2x1.25 $140.00 plastic part . I have that part sitting in front of me while I await Spool Assembly replacement. If you need to replace it I on this part would go the cheap CHICOM Ebay way since there are no complex electronics involved.
 
#3 ·
This happened to me also on my '06 EXL. The stupid Tighten Fuel Cap or Check Engine light kept coming on. I replaced the fuel cap with a Honda one 3 times and it would work for about 6 months and then repeat itself. I didn't want to buy another one because they are super expensive in Canada. I cleaned the fuel cap oring/gasket and fuel filler neck really good with alcohol and haven't had a problem since. I even changed the fuel cap back to my original one and it's still good.
 
#4 ·
I've been battling this since I purchased my '08 LX two years ago. Comes and goes... starts with check fuel cap, progresses to P145C with or with out P0497. I've done everything that I've read about including replacing the vent pressure sensor, purge control solenoid and gas cap. I'm looking at replacing the canister assembly next as I've learned recently (I think) that my Ody canister contains a 'vent shut valve' or purge valve that is built into the thing. If that don't do it I will admit defeat and live with "tighten fuel cap" dancing across my odometer display more often than not I guess...
 
#5 ·
Thanks to everyone for their insights. After doing a bit more checking today while changing the oil, it looks like my purge solenoid may be shot. When I hooked a vacuum pump up to the manifold side of the valve with the Ody off, it would not hold any vacuum at all.

Based on my research, it should be completely shut and hold vacuum when the vehicle is off. What's amusing (or not, depending on your perspective) is that I just replaced the purge solenoid in August. Perhaps I should have used an OEM Honda on instead of the Standard Motor Products off of Amazon.