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What does page 250 of your Honda Odyssey 2001 Owner's Manual look like?

Mine has a 'substitute' page that was taped over the original one. This page deals w/ engine oil and shows a chart labelled "ambient temparature" w/ 5W-30 on a black 2 headed arrow.

The middle column reads as follows: "An oil with a viscosity of 5W-30 is preferred for improved fuel economy and year-round protection of your Honda."

Hmmm. This is interesting. Didn't it originally mention 5W-20? I can't hold it up to the light & see what the page looks like under it. Does anyone else have this 'new' page?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nyvram:
What does page 250 of your Honda Odyssey 2001 Owner's Manual look like?

The middle column reads as follows: "An oil with a viscosity of 5W-30 is preferred for improved fuel economy and year-round protection of your Honda."

Hmmm. This is interesting. Didn't it originally mention 5W-20? I can't hold it up to the light & see what the page looks like under it. Does anyone else have this 'new' page?

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IIRC, Honda flip-flopped on recommended viscosities for the Ody or just plain made a mistake about the 5W-20 recommendation.

There were threads on this subject earlier under "Periodic Maintenance" I think.

Anyway, the 5W-30 recommendation is correct. I wanted it in writing because there was so much conflicting info, even the dealers were confused, so I called Honda and a rep sent me a letter stating that the current recommendation is 5W-30.

The letter is posted in my album.

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[This message has been edited by ckonarske (edited 07-06-2001).]
 

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You're too much, Chuck!

That's it. I found the thread in the periodic maintenence area as well. Looks like I should have gone back further; it was back in March, I believe.

Well, that's good news. Now its verified in 'paper' by Honda both in my owner's manual & again via an official letter to people who inquired.

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Thanks for scanning that, Chuck! I'll add that to the site this weekend.

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i know this is unrelated to the subject and im going to have to check on that 250th page but i just noticed this on marvyn last post marvyn what brand are your head lights?
what is the out put?
how much were they?
well thatnks hope you can answer my questions


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Riddle me this?

Re: 5W-30 vs. 10W-30 weight oil.

The only diference is the viscosity at startup, or lower, temperatures. Once the oils reach operating temperature, then the oils perform and behave the same.

The only reason I see for the Honda requirement of 5W oil is reduced friction at startup, and that this helps the manufacturer meet Federally mandated emission and mileage requirements. I don't see how the 10W would harm the engine in any way. In fact, the owner's manual says that 10W-30 oil may be used as a temporary substitute.

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So what did they change in the engine between 2001 and 2002? The owner's manual for my 2002 specifically says 5w-20 ONLY. The "Tip Sheet" Honda mailed to me confirms this. What changed? Why can't 5w-20 be used in the 2001?
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sinbad:
Riddle me this?

Re: 5W-30 vs. 10W-30 weight oil.

The only diference is the viscosity at startup, or lower, temperatures. Once the oils reach operating temperature, then the oils perform and behave the same.

The only reason I see for the Honda requirement of 5W oil is reduced friction at startup, and that this helps the manufacturer meet Federally mandated emission and mileage requirements. I don't see how the 10W would harm the engine in any way. In fact, the owner's manual says that 10W-30 oil may be used as a temporary substitute.

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The 5W part of the equation has to do with the old, still valid, axiom that most of engine wear happens during the first few seconds when the engine is started cold. In theory, at least, a 5W will get to those parts which need it a little quicker than a 10W oil. In most cases, that would be a good thing. The 10W-30 might be a little better protection in a hot motor, but, in order to get it hot, you must first start it and the 5W is the best bet there. In places like Frozen Ass, Idaho, some folks even use ZeroW-30 oil, for quicker flow. Just my take on the subject......

Jerry O.


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Jerry O, I agree with you.
 
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