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#22 ·
white2015 said:
Ok...not sure about the no part.
Some oils do contain a few ppm of certain oils. However for all intents and purposes wear metals from a UOA is from the mechanical part that the oil has been used in.

Blackstone said they saw no bennefit to using syn oils vs conventional or blends. Even in turbo applications. Over thousands of different engines and oils.
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Not sure what you’re not sure about as far as wear metals. Just because there is wear, doesn’t mean the engine is going to catastrophically blow up in a week, assuming the wear metals are within average. Every engine is going to have some metal wear, whether iron, copper, etc.
 
#23 ·
tyman said:
Not sure what you’re not sure about as far as wear metals. Just because there is wear, doesn’t mean the engine is going to catastrophically blow up in a week, assuming the wear metals are within average. Every engine is going to have some metal wear, whether iron, copper, etc.
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This is where I am confused.....I never said that any engine would catastrophically blow up....never.

I posted that Blackstone stated there was no difference in using expensive boutique oils or even shelf syn oils

Not sure where you made the above connection to any of my posts. I never stated your assumption.
 
#24 ·
white2015 said:
This is where I am confused.....I never said that any engine would catastrophically blow up....never.

I posted that Blackstone stated there was no difference in using expensive boutique oils or even shelf syn oils

Not sure where you made the above connection to any of my posts. I never stated your assumption.
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You talked multiple times about parts wearing out and metal contaminants in oil. I was just expanding on those statements.

As far as Blackstone and their statement they made, they were talking in a general sense. If a conventional or synblend oil shears down in viscosity lower than it should, that can cause cam wear/rocker wear faster than a full synthetic that didn't shear down. What Blackstone was talking about was that they haven't tested any oils that failed catastrophically and blew up an engine. It would be like someone saying that Mountain Dew nor Yellow Mellow has ever killed anyone so there's no difference in them. They still are going to make people obese though.

That's more along the lines of me expanding on your statements. Unless there's a catastrophic wear amount or viscosity shearing down/or up due to oxidation, UOAs don't always tell the full story, especially in regards to oil quality.
 
#25 ·
tyman said:
You talked multiple times about parts wearing out and metal contaminants in oil. I was just expanding on those statements.

As far as Blackstone and their statement they made, they were talking in a general sense. If a conventional or synblend oil shears down in viscosity lower than it should, that can cause cam wear/rocker wear faster than a full synthetic that didn't shear down. What Blackstone was talking about was that they haven't tested any oils that failed catastrophically and blew up an engine. It would be like someone saying that Mountain Dew nor Yellow Mellow has ever killed anyone so there's no difference in them. They still are going to make people obese though.

That's more along the lines of me expanding on your statements. Unless there's a catastrophic wear amount or viscosity shearing down/or up due to oxidation, UOAs don't always tell the full story, especially in regards to oil quality.
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Got cha......😉
 
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#29 ·
OddyseyRaceTeam said:
Freedom to go further (mobil.com)

10 dollar rebate til end of month on 5 qt. jug (25 @ WallyWorld) You can't do it much cheaper no matter what other flavor you like.
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A $10 prepaid Visa card is not a rebate. I hate that predatory crap. Why not just discount the actual shelf price? Because corporations know they can count on consumer greed these days to trick anyone.
 
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Batvette said:
Whaaaaat? They cant do that! I think you can get more accurate insider info from almost anywhere else... Most walmart employees arent privvy to corporate plans, and arent the brightest pencils in the tool shed. Lol.
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tyman said:
considering QS is a Shell brand, that’s interesting that Highline Warren would contract to QS to make an oil for them.
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That's why I said "take it with a grain of salt." But as far as what I mentioned about most of the SuperTech oils being clearanced out and disappearing from the shelves, that is a stone cold fact, at least with the 5 quart jugs.
 
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#32 ·
tyman said:
Even cheaper if you have an Oreillys nearby. They’re doing a $10 rebate as well.
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sigh NOT A REBATE. Another gift card sham.

rebate trickery

This one's even worse because it limits you to a $10 O'Reilly gift card. At least the "rebate" linked above is a Visa gift card that can be used most anywhere.
Also, there's a good chance you'll be waiting months for your gift card- if you ever see it at all. Why not just go to WalMart and buy the already much cheaper (and as good as anything else) SuperTech oil where you're saving money right off the shelf? When will people learn.
 
#33 ·
bugman said:
sigh NOT A REBATE. Another gift card sham.

rebate trickery

This one's even worse because it limits you to a $10 O'Reilly gift card. At least the "rebate" linked above is a Visa gift card that can be used most anywhere.
Also, there's a good chance you'll be waiting months for your gift card- if you ever see it at all. Why not just go to WalMart and buy the already much cheaper (and as good as anything else) SuperTech oil where you're saving money right off the shelf? When will people learn.
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I'd rather save money on a better oil than pay more for a not better oil. Plus, ST has raised their prices lately anyway. The 20k oil is $26-27/jug now.
 
#34 ·
Yeah, I used to buy SuperTech near exclusively and really considered it the best buy. Now that i have made the switch to using synthetic (whatever you want to call the natural gas stock stuff) I just don't find it to be anymore. I also always got my check and now card in the mail

Three years ago tho it was for max 4 jugs. That was 5 GALLONS of Mobil 1 for 50 dollars after mail-in rebate. (Yea, I hated seeing them go to the card too but I still play as I usually only use 1 a year) If it's trickery, at least it's a lubricant.
 
#37 ·

Just like most other consumer tricks - like rebates that aren't really rebates - 20k oil is a sham. As explained in the video above it's labeled as such because it CAN protect your engine for up to 20k miles, but (ASTERISK-- look on the bottle!) if you don't still follow the auto manufacturers specified oil change interval recommendation, if something happened to your engine, the warranty is voided.
So if you still need to be changing your oil every 5000 miles or so, what's the point of paying the extra money for 20k mile oil?
Man there are some real suckers out there.
 
#39 ·
bugman said:
Why in the world would you ever have to have the 20k mile oil? Strawman argument.
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They raised the prices on their 10k oil too. Why in the world would you ever have to have a 10k oil? It's about choice. Just because it's labeled as a "20k oil" doesn't mean one has to use it as a 20k oil.
 
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