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Recommended equipment for AC recovery, evacuation and refill

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#1 · (Edited)
What equipment would you recommend to service the odyssey's AC, specifically to replace valve cores, recover refrigerant, evacuate the system and refill? I am considering performing this repair myself, as well as maintaining the AC in other systems that use R410A and R1234yf refrigerants.

The categories of equipment that I think will be required is in the table below and I expect a total cost of about $1000. Which equipment have you used and can recommend for one-off maintenance?

EDITED This post requests recommendations on equipment for AC maintenance from people who use that equipment. Cost-benefit analyses are unnecessary.

AC Service Equipment

Equipment Model Price Requirements
Refrigerant Recovery Machine Vevor 3/4 HP $400R134A, R410A, R1234YF systems
Vacuum Pump 150 Two-stage, 3-5CFM
Refrigerant Recovery Tank 100
4way AC Manifold 100
Weight Scale Yellow Jacket 75
Ball Valves (3pcs) for AC Manifold 25
Filter Drier 25
Valve extraction tool 25
 
#2 ·
Other than going to an independant mechanic you can talk 1 on 1 with, would you just continue going to a dealer? The service you mentioned would cost about $75 at an independent shop and would have accomplished the same goal. The AC machine isn't going to tell you if the valves are leaking because they are open when it tests for leaks.

You found the leak, you just need an evac and one of these to remove the Schrader valves. Replace both and have it refilled. The seal the pin presses against will get flat as paper and just leak over time. As a general rule I like to replace them if they're over 10 years old. They like to give out in the upper teens or during their 20s. (vehicle age).
 
#3 ·
WOW I did not expect recovery machine to be just $400.

What I did - went to A/C shop to have A/C system evacuated. Paid $100.

Did fill up myself hacing invested ~ $100 into pump and manyfold (Harbor Freigh)

Given how rare I need to do it (once in 10 years) I figured this was the most economical
 
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#8 ·
I understand the need for the right equipment, but might consider how often this equipment will be needed.

I would look at Harbor Freight: vacuum pump and gauges. I used an inexpensive kitchen scale to weigh the refrigerant. As for evacuation, that was already done as the systems had slready open up. The other occasion where the system was charged, I brought it my local mechanic whom charged me $60 to evacuate and recharge afterwards. Granted, I knew this person well. But he only did 15 minutes worth of real labor!
 
#9 ·
Investing in tools and equipment could be justified if the cost is similar to the service, or OP has to service many cars in a near future. I hired an indy mech (that I trust) about 17 years ago for about 100 bucks. The A/C worked for at least 12 years, then the car was sold. Even 200 bucks is still acceptable versus buying the tools and equipment, and consumable materials. If OP can't trust any mechs in his area, then I can understand his wiliness to invest and perform this service by himself.
OP, if you live in or near NYC, I can give you a phone number of a reliable indy mech.
 
#10 ·
After some actual modern day pricing research it sounds like the standard base rate is 1 labor hour. I'm not even sure if I remember the last time I saw an actual "A/C shop"

I have to admit I don't remember what a service shop bill looks like. With no hiccups, the actual labor for an evac/recharge and valve replacement is about 10 minutes if you include pulling it into the shop. The rest of the time is for making coffee and running to the men's room.
 
#13 ·
I’ve had it done a few times at my independent mechanic shop and it’s always cost around $150. The only AC shop I can think of is Rad Air. I’m not sure if that’s a national chain or if it’s local here in Ohio.