[Lartymarf]

Hi All,

I have a 2018 Elite with 19000 miles (we live and play in a small radius from home and are on an island.) Took delivery of our Elite around April 2018.

The stock Turanzas are down to 4/32 and the shoulder treads look knarly, stock tires are definitely not very grippy in the wet so will be replacing the oem tires soon.

I read certain places that the TPMS should last 7-10 years, some other places say 5-10 years. I'm pretty much at year 5 and I don't know if I should replace the TPMS sensors with new ones or reuse them. I don't want to reuse them and a year or 2 later they go out, then that means double the labor just to change out the sensors. It's likely the replacement tires will give us maybe 4 years of usage until next set of tires.

Suggestions? Thoughts? What would you do or what have you done in similar situation?

Thanks!

 

[digitalextremes]

Based on your mileage, get them all replaced when the first one dies (could be 5-7-10 yrs)


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[Lartymarf]

Based on your mileage, get them all replaced when the first one dies (could be 5-7-10 yrs)


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Hi Digital,

Thanks for the reply. In other words, you recommend replacing tires and reusing the TPMS sensors, and then x number of years down the road when the first one dies, then get just the 4 TPMS replaced by the tire shop?

Thanks!

 

[highvoltage]

Yup, that's how I read it. Trying to guess when they're going to die is like trying to time the stock market. When the first one goes replace them all. After the first one croaks, the others won't be far behind.

 

[Juggawut]

That's what he's saying. If you wait until you have good tires but a sensor dies, all of a sudden you'll pay mount and balance fees to have them replaced. I've found the battery life will report good to a scanner even if death is imminent, and only sometimes will a scanner find a low battery before it fails. Pre-emptive replacement is the only guarantee.

 

[Lartymarf]

Yup, that's how I read it. Trying to guess when they're going to die is like trying to time the stock market. When the first one goes replace them all. After the first one croaks, the others won't be far behind.

Hi Highvoltage,

Thanks for the reply! Have you had to replace the tires on your 2018? I take it you replaced the TPMS when replacing the tires?

Thanks!

 

[Lartymarf]

That's what he's saying. If you wait until you have good tires but a sensor dies, all of a sudden you'll pay mount and balance fees to have them replaced. I've found the battery life will report good to a scanner even if death is imminent, and only sometimes will a scanner find a low battery before it fails. Pre-emptive replacement is the only guarantee.

Hi Juggawut,

Thanks for the reply.

I think in asking the question, I'm leaning towards pre-emptive replacement of the TPMS. I'm planning on having a local small tire shop do the job because they have the touchless tire machines and the owners do the work themselves with solid yelp reviews. It'll cost around $200 to swap tire and balance etc. and I don't feel like paying for that twice in a short period of time.

But, I'm conflicted, because Digital has a point, given my mileage. Since the car has low mileage, maybe the TPMS has decent reserve of battery life and they might last until the next set of tires.

Thanks!

 

[Ted]

What's missing from this discussion is the cost of replacing the sensors at the same time as tire replacement, vs. the cost of replacing them at a later date, apart from tire replacement.

I would be inclined to see what kind of life gen 4 owners have experienced, and include that in my calculations.

 

[Lartymarf]

What's missing from this discussion is the cost of replacing the sensors at the same time as tire replacement, vs. the cost of replacing them at a later date, apart from tire replacement.

I would be inclined to see what kind of life gen 4 owners have experienced, and include that in my calculations.

Ted,

The sensors, washers, and nuts with shipping are around $160.

Labor to swap 4 tires, mount, balance, etc around $200 each time.

The issue is whether the $160 can last to the next set of tires. If not, then it's $200 extra in the same cycle of the next set of tires. If yes, then new sensor would be put in at the next next tire change at the same time.

Thanks!

 

[Ted]

Does your tire guy say he needs to dismount and rebalance? I have seen TPMS replaced without removing the tire (just breaking the bead), whch means balance maintained if OE sensors are used. People here have indicated that GH from Majestic or other discount source can approach aftermarket pricing.

 

[Lartymarf]

Does your tire guy say he needs to dismount and rebalance? I have seen TPMS replaced without removing the tire (just breaking the bead), whch means balance maintained if OE sensors are used. People here have indicated that GH from Majestic or other discount source can approach aftermarket pricing.

Hi Ted,

Good question. I will ask my tire guy for cost of replacing sensors if/when it goes bad.

Thanks!!

 

[pkrface]

+1 for using the existing sensors for another set of tires. Miles does have an impact on battery life, so that low of miles I would expect the sensors to go another 5 years. I just replaced the tires on my MILs 2009 Accord with 20K miles on it and the OEM sensors were still functioning. I did replace those sensors because of the 13 years of age on them, so I don't know how much longer they would have gone.

 

[digitalextremes]

Hi Digital,

Thanks for the reply. In other words, you recommend replacing tires and reusing the TPMS sensors, and then x number of years down the road when the first one dies, then get just the 4 TPMS replaced by the tire shop?

Thanks!

Yes, that’s what most people do. Mine were suppose to last up to 7 years on a different vehicle, lasted 10, when 1 died, I replaced all 4 at that time.

Have battery life checked every 1-2 years, wireless AUTEL TS508 (I own one because I had to reprogram tpms sensors each time I switched summer-winter tires on a Toyota) or alike scanner can tell you if it’s OK or Low in couple seconds by holding the scanner next to the tire any time of the year.


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[Lartymarf]

Yes, that’s what most people do. Mine were suppose to last up to 7 years on a different vehicle, lasted 10, when 1 died, I replaced all 4 at that time.

Have battery life checked every 1-2 years, wireless AUTEL 508 or alike scanner can tell you if it’s OK or Low in couple seconds by holding the scanner next to the tire any time of the year.


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Hi Digital,

Thanks for the reply!

By the way, when you replace tires and keep existing TPMS sensors, did you need to replace the washers and nuts? Or leave the sensors along untouched?

Thanks!

 

[Lartymarf]

+1 for using the existing sensors for another set of tires. Miles does have an impact on battery life, so that low of miles I would expect the sensors to go another 5 years. I just replaced the tires on my MILs 2009 Accord with 20K miles on it and the OEM sensors were still functioning. I did replace those sensors because of the 13 years of age on them, so I don't know how much longer they would have gone.

Hi Pkrface,

Thanks for the reply. Yeah that's a really good reference point too! That's really low mileage!

Thanks!

 

[digitalextremes]

Hi Digital,

Thanks for the reply!

By the way, when you replace tires and keep existing TPMS sensors, did you need to replace the washers and nuts? Or leave the sensors along untouched?

Thanks!

No, the guy changing tires will remove the valve stem core to let air out faster; mount the tire and put the valve stem core back in the valve (they don’t remove and re mount the valve/tpms.

But if your tires are worn out at 19k miles; you have some other issue or you need to fix the driving habits and stop doing burn outs, they should last longer than that. I am at 80k kms (Canada) on the 2018 with original tires and about 40% tread left but I do have a winter tires I use from mid Nov to mid Apr.


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[digitalextremes]

Don’t use existing sensors in another set of tires (for example if you have winter tires on another set of rims); put new ones in there. Odyssey adapts to new sensors automatically.


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[Lartymarf]

No, the guy changing tires will remove the valve stem core to let air out faster; mount the tire and put the valve stem core back in the valve. If you remove the value (they don’t remove and re mount the valve/tpms.

But if your tires are worn out at 19k miles; you have some other issue or you need to fix the driving habits and stop doing burn outs, they should last longer than that. I am at 80k kms (Canada) on the 2018 with original tires and about 40% tread left.


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Hi Digital,

Ok got it! So the TPMS sensor is pretty much untouched during the tire change process.

I drive 97% local stop and go traffic and and the driving is within a 3 mile radius. The roads here are hard on tires and lots of tires are chewed up by the local roads. Plus, it doesn't help that I have a heavy foot!!

Thanks!

 

[pkrface]

Hi Digital,

Ok got it! So the TPMS sensor is pretty much untouched during the tire change process.

I drive 97% local stop and go traffic and and the driving is within a 3 mile radius. The roads here are hard on tires and lots of tires are chewed up by the local roads. Plus, it doesn't help that I have a heavy foot!!

Thanks!

That actually brings up another point though. If you are in the snowbelt you may consider having the tire shop replace the "O" rings in the OEM sensors while the tires are off. They are famous for leaking with age. They likely won't charge you any additional labor and it will probably run you less than $5 a wheel, but if you don't and even one leaks later it'll cost you $30-40 just for one.

 

[Lartymarf]

That actually brings up another point though. If you are in the snowbelt you may consider having the tire shop replace the "O" rings in the OEM sensors while they are out. They are famous for leaking with age. They likely won't charge you any additional labor and it will probably run you less than $5 a wheel, but if you don't and even one leaks later it'll cost you $30-40 just for one.

Hi Pkrface,

Are you referring to the washer (see attached image)? Or something else?

Thanks!