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I want to be able to secure cargo in order to avoid flying projetiles in case of an accident/rollover. The owner's manual says to securely tie down any cargo, but does not suggest how to go about this.

My plan was to purchase two elastic cargo nets - one the size of the cargo area when the third-row seats are up, and one the size when they are down. I'd then cover any cargo with the net.

I went out and checked for tie-down locations in the cargo area. There are supposed to be 8 cargo tie-down anchors. As far as I can see:
* the second and third row seats each have three black bars a couple of inches above the floor that appear that you could hook a cargo net or tie-down straps onto them (6 anchors)
* there are also the two large silver U-shaped hooks in the floor when the third row is stowed (where the third row attaches when the seats are up).
* I think you could also clip onto the silver U-shaped hooks that the second row seats clip onto (the hooks that allow you to slide the seats into wide mode).

All of these attachment points look solid, but they are all toward the front of the cargo area. The only attachment points I can see in the rear of the cargo area are the four round plastic knobs designed to hold the hammock-type cargo net that Honda sells. I'm not confident that a large cargo net or tie-down straps could be anchored securely to those plastic pegs, or that the plastic pegs wouldn't break in an accident.

So, how do you tie down your cargo - what type of net or straps do you use and where do you attach it? Can you have extra cargo hooks added to the rear of the cargo area?

Thanks for any advice!
 

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I don't tend to secure cargo too much, I know, I know, speed X weight = powerful projectile, but most of my cargo is way in the back at the bottom of the well and I'm the only one in the car usually. But last week I had a 200+ LB motorized wheelchair in the back with the 3rd row folded and wanted to secure it. I have the 3rd gen, so I don't know if this can be done with the 2011, but there is a LATCH hook for a child seat mounted on the back bumper inside the cargo well that worked perfectly. I had to use a small attachment to make it easily accessible with the the seats stowed, but I would trust that to hold just about as much as anything else. Its meant to hold a child seat in place after all.

I do know that Honda changed the latch setup for 2011, so the latch points may possibly be on the back of the 3rd row seat itself, making it useless for this. I don't really care about the LATCH system or securing child seats in general, so I don't follow it to know either way, but I'm sure someone else will.
 

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See the Owners Manual page 556 for cargo hook locations. It looks like those round knobs are what they give you...

On a side note, I noticed the weight limits on page 553 when I was looking for the cargo info. Not that we necessarily would, but if we put 8 200 lb people in the van it would exceed the weight limit by 300lbs. If you are going to put 8 people in the van you better hope the average is 167 lbs or less....
 

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See the Owners Manual page 556 for cargo hook locations. It looks like those round knobs are what they give you...

On a side note, I noticed the weight limits on page 553 when I was looking for the cargo info. Not that we necessarily would, but if we put 8 200 lb people in the van it would exceed the weight limit by 300lbs. If you are going to put 8 people in the van you better hope the average is 167 lbs or less....
I think I could provide at least 50 lbs of slack :D
 

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I wish the tether hook was inside the back bumper, but in the '11 they're in the back of the seats. (I checked the owner's manual and the black bars that I noticed on the seat backs are for the tether anchors.)

I was surprised, too, at the maximum load weights. It would be quite easy to exceed them if you were loaded up with passengers and luggage for a long trip.
 

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I was at the service department today, and asked whether I could have additional anchors installed in the back. He did not recommend it, saying that it might be difficult to find suitable anchor points and it could damage the trim.

He said that the four plastic knobs should support a decent amount of weight, because there are screws inside screwed into the frame. (I'm still not sure that I'm very confident about them, though.)
 

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A web netting should have come with your van. Check in the back in the little storage cubby in the driver side wall of the rear cargo area. I believe that's where mine was.
 

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I really wish there were some small hooks or something on the roof between the 2nd and 3rd row seats. When we travel we usually only use 2 rows, the 3rd is folded and luggage is there. I'm thinking of making a metal mesh divider that would clamp at the bottom of the 2nd row chairs and the top would clamp against the metal bars of the headrest.
 

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I recall seeing some sort of metal (maybe plastic) fencing device being marketed to keep pets safely in the rear portion of vans/suvs. May be worth looking into.
 

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or you can get a travel box from vendors like yakima or thule. Put it on top
of the van securely and put everything in there.
But then you need to deal with wind noise and drag.

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I recall seeing some sort of metal (maybe plastic) fencing device being marketed to keep pets safely in the rear portion of vans/suvs. May be worth looking into.
I had one in my SUV when i was in college. The compression type that you squeeze between the ceilling and the floor. A total waste of money. It actually was the most dangerous projectile in the car.
 

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Nope, you won't. I've travelled over 3000 miles with a THULE travel box on top of my van. These boxes are designed to be as quiet as possible with minimum effect on your gas mileage. No clutter inside the van in addition to more room. :rollingeyes:
But then you need to deal with wind noise and drag.

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For me, securing means to the four corners of the floor. It seems kind of jinky that Honda expects us to secure to the 4 corners of the back wall of the van. To little tabs no less.
 

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You can always remove the round anchors and replace them with a bolt and hook that will hold the net. The net isn't going to hold much anyway, but if it keeps items below the seat backs in a wreck it will help. I carried a power chair after removing the 2nd row seats and used the seat anchors to secure the straps.
 

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I really wish there were some small hooks or something on the roof between the 2nd and 3rd row seats. When we travel we usually only use 2 rows, the 3rd is folded and luggage is there. I'm thinking of making a metal mesh divider that would clamp at the bottom of the 2nd row chairs and the top would clamp against the metal bars of the headrest.
I recall seeing some sort of metal (maybe plastic) fencing device being marketed to keep pets safely in the rear portion of vans/suvs. May be worth looking into.
For relative small items, grocery bags etc, you can just get collapsible tote boxes from hardware or stationery stores to keep them:

collapsible crate - Google Search
 

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Nope, you won't. These boxes are designed to be as quiet as possible with minimum effect on your gas mileage. :rollingeyes:
Yep, you will. The effect of a roof rack on gas mileage is substantial. 27% reduction in this real-life example, for instance: Mini-experiment: the wrath of roof racks - MetroMPG.com

Further, the OP's whole point is safety, and putting a heavy rack full of stuff on the roof increases your rollover risk.

Personally, unless you ski, I don't understand why anyone would ever use a roof rack - they are a pain to climb up to, kill your mileage, increase your rollover risk, and don't fit much stuff to begin with.
 

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I want to be able to secure cargo in order to avoid flying projetiles in case of an accident/rollover. The owner's manual says to securely tie down any cargo, but does not suggest how to go about this.
OP, did you figure out a solution here?

fyi, On my other car (cadillac srx) I bought a GM OEM mesh barrier which separates the cargo area from the passenger - it has four anchor points (two in the roof, two to the floor tether points, so the thing is vertical). GM rates it to withstand a 100lb suitcase at 35mph. The anchor points are steel. No plastic is involved. Repeat: rated for 100lb suitcase at 35mph.

As another poster already mentioned, any pet barrier held in by friction is complete unsafe garbage. Similarly, any plastic used as a structural element is also unsafe.
 

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I've use Raingler nets in my 2001 Nissan Xterra for nearly 15 year to keep stuff loaded in the back back there. Now that I have a set of twins I also have a 2015 Odyssey. I find the lack of cargo tie downs very disturbing. There is no way to keep anything from their stroller to groceries in the cargo area in a collision. I'm seriously considering adding in tie down hardware to the back behind the second row of seats.
 
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