Please tell me you did not use Jiffy Lube's "T-Tech" service.
This is an internet legend. New ATF does not cause any automatic transmission to begin malfunctioning. I've purchased multiple used cars over the years that had between 65,000 to just over 100,000 miles. One had 155,000 miles (perfect, white 1998 Accord LX driven by a little old lady from north Texas...it was a bargain!).I understand that if the fluid is crap (after 150K without changing) then it could very well cause the slippage if new fluid is used.
Our ancient 1998 Accord LX needed 4x ATF drains/refills just to make the ATF red again. 4x more with Honda ATF. It ran much, much better in terms of shifting and eliminated transmission shudder at idle.in that case throw some lubeguard red in there.
if its oil related, that will sort it out.
I think that's a good idea. I'm pretty sure we all think that's a good idea.I'm thinking of just order some ATF and do a 3 drain-fill cycles to see if it helps.
As well, I'd still like to know exactly what ATF he did use.After being so diligent with service since new, you probably let your guard down by trusting the shop to use a truly Honda-compatible ATF. "Import" + "equivalent" = Kryptonite.
Agreed. Very much agree with this! That rise in RPM before engagement, followed by an RPM drop as the clutch fully engages is called "flaring", and if it is doing this for other gears as well, the slipping involved will destroy the affected clutch packs in short order.Slipping is tough on the clutches. Don't drive it any more than absolutely necessary until the 3-times drain/fill is complete
dick, you might be talking about a different transmission design.The PCM will continually "learn" to a low but finite slip RPM target. This is to shed pump loadcaused by more head pressure than absolutely necessary.
This, yes.You should probably read the rest of the posts before replying...
If you ever have such a high concentration of the entire spectrum of transmission wear materials suspended in the ATF that it actually affects operation, that is really, really bad. Wear materials are not "the friction modifier."Correct transmission operation requires a certain amount of clutch particulate matter to be suspended in it. It is the friction modifier which is why a new transmission or rebuilt one must have a friction modifier added at the beginning.
"Overmaintaining" doesn't "cause problems". If you have exactly the correct quantity of ATF during each servicing, you could perform a drain/refill every day, and not cause any difficulties. Clean ATF with a fresh additives package, clear of all contaminants is the ideal physical state for the ATF."Overmaintaining" causes problems.
Agreed.Brown means should be changed ASAP. It's black that should have you a little concerned.
You definitely should be changing fluid more often than that...at least every 30k.
I had no idea such a thing existed.I know that is different vs. the friction clutch you're talking about, just interesting maybe.