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not sure where to post this one, but I know Jim is interested in getting the word out...listen up all performance enthusiasts!

I'm contracting with a local turbo/exhaust shop to build and sell a full stainless steel exhaust system. This one won't be cheap as it's A. large, and B. NOT T304 stainless...this is the lighter, stronger stuff. the whole system may weigh UNDER 25lbs! I'm working out the details, but need to know if anyone is interested and will be taking deposits for the systems when we complete them. If we don't build a custom muffler as well, we'll be using Thermal R&D systems...the FINEST exhuast money can buy


THEN? after the exhaust is done, he wants to do a project...and what is this project you ask? well, i mentioned to him i'd like to turbocharge the ODY soon. he was all for it and "loves a project..." in his words. We'll be putting single and twin turbo's together for the ODY. this won't be anytime REAL soon, but should be around by year end, early next year? depending on the demand from you guys and the seriousness of inquiries.

I need to know who is interested in either of these, the exhaust the most attainable at this point, so we know what to expect and if we should go ahead with the plans.

thanks guys, look for more on this on this site, www.odyclub.com.



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Keep me posted on both of these. I was thinking of the PowerDyne supercharger myself but I prefer turbo's!! David

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sign me up!!
but I'd be more interested in after market shocks, as mine as going bad after a year w/ the Tanabe lowering springs.
A warning to all of you getting the H&R's.
Your OEM shocks will not last long!!!
 

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well, seeing as how the guy lives a few minutes from me..I suppose MINE will be the guinea pig


I am still waiting for my H&R's....I was SUPPOSED to get them shipped as soon as they hit the US shore! not sure why they aren't here yet...will have to call H&R on monday.



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TrickedOdyssey:
I'm interested in the stainless steel exhaust system. However, I have a few questions for you: (a) Will the pipes be mandrel bent? (b) When you said "Not T304, wouldn't this mean weaker material in the snese that it will rust.

The reason for asking question (b) was that when I was looking for a system for my Civic, the purchasing manager who handles steel purchases where I work said that a higher number (T309, T310, T316, T321, etc.) would mean less quality characteristics in terms of rusting. I believe this guy because he analyzes the chemistry of every steel that comes through our docks. For exhaust, he said minimum would be T304 or T300. T300 would probably cost more. T304 is probably the standard in exhaust system. He also said to avoid the T4xx series for exhaust purposes. Being lighter may be stronger but would not last us a long time especially with snow, salt & sand.

If you can kindly check with your contact to verify this. Thanks.
 

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Kuruma Hayai,

Actually your service manager's idea on the stainless steel is backwards as far as the 300 series goes. In other words 321 is best against corrosion (it is stabilized with titanium). The 316 offers better corrosion and pitting resistance than T-304. (I know because I work on an underwater vehicles program.) T304 costs less than the others by the way. He/she is right about the 400 series being horrible against corrosion.
 

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DMGJLG, if you do go for the Powerdyne, I know a guy through the Dakota R/T forum who sells them exclusively (but soon he'll sell Vortec and Kenne Bell too) and he sells them to the members of the R/T forum (me included) for about 15% less than retail. The thing is that I doubt Powerdyne makes a kit for a Honda, much less the Ody.

If you want to force feed the Ody, you either can see if they have anything in Japan, or have a custom unit install. Either case though it would be a lot of $$$. It would be cheaper putting a 02 engine in and adding simple bolt ons (ignition, pullys, throttle bodies, intake, exhausts, etc) or port and polish the heads. You would probably end up with similar power and much better reliability. Not to mention it'll be much cheaper if you find a wreck MDX of 02 Ody.
 

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I might be interested in the exhaust, depending on how it sounds. Will it have one of those fart can buuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrr like all those rice burners, or a deep mellow sound.

Or maybe I'll just put a Flowmaster 40 series on and wake everybody up every time start the Ody, hmmmmmmm.
 

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Question?

Do they do any kind of internal mods to the engine when they add an aftermarket turbo or supercharger system?

My impression is that "blown" engines usually run lower base compression ratios as well as somewhat beefier con rods (and possibly pistons)when compared to their normally asperated counterparts to handle the added loads.

Just curious.....

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well...first off, POWERDYNE makes a supercharger for the Civic


as for the forced induction being an issue....I have a "rice burner" 91 Civic with a JDM DOHC motor (for all you domestic owners that stands for DOUBLE OVERHEAD CAM)
anyway, as long as you stay under 9psi you'll be ok on the stock internals. Honda motors are build tough! Period! I wouldn't turbo a stock GM or chrysler....but a Honda I'd do in a minute...err...rather I have done!


I am putting low compression FI pistons and beefier rods in the civic this winter, so I can raise the boost...but things are going well on the stock bottom end.

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DTKWOK:
Thanks for the clarification. And I believed that guy. Anyway, I'll see him tomorrow and tell him he's got it the other way around in terms of the 300 series of stainless steel.
 

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Actually, I was looking at the Powerdyne because it is self contained. I would only have to build the mounting bracket for it and run it low boost (6psi). That should still give me about 250hp to play with and shouldn't cost too much money. DDakRt, you mentioned pulleys and intake, do you know if the Accord V6 pulleys and intake work on the Odyssey?? I was thinking of putting those on if they fit. David

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Oh, I knew Vortec makes a kit for the Civic but not Powerdyne.

Like TrickedOdyssey said, you should be fine is keep the boost low and use premium fuel.
Chrysler engines are quite strong and can stand force induction. I know of many Dakota R/T owners that supercharged their R/Ts and there are no major problems (as long as it's not a Kenne Bell kit, some sort of design flaw). Don't forget that back in the late 80 and early 90s almost every Mopar had a turbo option. From minivans to Spirits to Daytonas.

DMGJLG, I would think pullys from a Accord would work as they have bascially the same engine, except ours is bored out. But intake might not fit perfectly as I think our throttle body is a little larger. You are talking about aftermarket pully and intake and not the stock one right? If you are refering to the factory ones I don't think they'll do you much good.

As for my "rice burner" comment, you know those Civics, Integra etc. The ones with a coffee can exhaust, 56 foot wing on a FWD car, car covered with stickers of parts that they don't have, fake Type R badges, lowered cm to the groung with stock hubcaps.... You know what I am talking about, all those all show and no go ones. Funny thing is that Toyota is doing the same thing with thier Celica ad. "Looks Fast" the ad saids, I bet.
 

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Yep, I was thinking of trying out the Accord UR Pulley and the AEM cold air intake. If it works I will post and let you know. David

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DDakRT:
As for my "rice burner" comment, you know those Civics, Integra etc. The ones with a coffee can exhaust, 56 foot wing on a FWD car, car covered with stickers of parts that they don't have, fake Type R badges, lowered cm to the groung with stock hubcaps.... You know what I am talking about, all those all show and no go ones. Funny thing is that Toyota is doing the same thing with thier Celica ad. "Looks Fast" the ad saids, I bet.</font>

LOL, I know what you mean. I go for speed first then looks later. heck, i drove my civic with stock wheel cover for years while running 13's in the quarter
some kids nowadays....sigh.....oh, gettting my turbo back tomorrow I hope...can't wait to get that thing back on my 91 Si!
and i just got the wife ANOTHER 91 Civic DX...VERY nice shape...putting exhaust, headers and intake on next week....oh, and some stickers, you know how they add at least 50 HP to a car???




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Only 50hp? Aren't they yellow? Yellow stickers add at least 75!


IMO the sleeper look is the way to go, attracting less attention. Nobody will expect you to win the race, but you'll embarrass the hell out of them if you do, kinda like that 12s Caravan, hehe.

The worst case of the sticker sickness I have seen are TRD stickers all over a Civic, Mugan stickers on a Celica, "Powered By Maxican" windshield banner, and a Alvin sticker pissing on a Honda "H" on a riced out CIVIC!!!
It's sad, it really is.
 
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