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on a related note to the newb thread, we've all bought our 4th gens within the last few months so we know what's out there. and i know, at least for me, when shopping for the minivan a lot of possibilities popped up. other makes of minivans of course, but station wagons as well. i was particularly taken with the volvo and subaru wagons and i'm pretty sure that our next vehicle will be one of those.

the audi wagons were probably the nicest of all. but given their luxury bent and hi cost, i never seriously considered it as an everyday utility car.
 

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We had a 2002 Subaru WRX wagon. I called it the turbo wagon, lol.

I LOOOOOOOVED that car. We traded in the WRX wagon, and our WRX STi, for the 2005 honda ody. :eek:
 

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I love Volvo station wagons but they just don't have enough storage space for me. Once you put a stroller in the trunk, it's hard to take a road trip. We turned in an MB GL450 :( :( for our Odyssey (sure do miss our GL) but the problem was that when the 3rd row was up, there wasn't room for anything in the trunk.
 

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If I were able to fit/do with a station wagon what I can fit/do with the Odyssey I'd never bought a van ;)

I believe the 2 are completely different car categories so no cross-shopping for us, but as a station wagon my favorite would the defunct Legacy wagon 2.5GT (not the Outback please!) or the defunct Mazda6 wagon, both mated with MT
 

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vqdriver said:
You sold a STI ?!
Now that's commitment to family.
I'm the mom! lol.

Yeah, we traded in two WRX's and a Honda VFR for the '05 ody.


My husband was hurting after that, but zomg that van was worth it!

Lemme dig out the pic of what we shoved in there!



Yeah. Odysseys ROCK!!

(and holy mess, and the reason we don't EAT in the van anymore! :D )
 

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We shopped around a long time before buying the Ody (1-2years).

The '11 Sienna was okay. It handled more like a van, though, with some backend sway. The electric steering was horrible in my opinion. I couldn't, at any given time, detect how the front wheels were turned. And if you think the Ody steering is easy, you'll hate the Sienna, it's gotta be 10x easier. Maybe that's someone's thing, but not mine. The interior plastic and headliner just shouted "cheap".

The '10 VW Routan was nice. We almost bought one due to the great deals available at the time. It really drove and felt very different from the '10 T&C. I was quite impressed with VW's enhancements. We didn't quite agree on price, though, so we passed on the deal.

The '10 T&C/Caravan. 'Nuff said.

The '11 T&C/Caravan look promising, but we wanted a van and they weren't available yet to test out.

The '11 Quest also looks very promising. Again, not available to test out yet, and we didn't like the seating arrangement for our purposes. I really, really wanted the intelligent key, though.

The '10/'11 Mazda5. If you're looking at wagons, then I highly suggest looking at this vehicle. We were seriously considering going this route instead of a full-size mini-van (love saying that:)) This little van is very well suited for some people, and you end up saving a lot of money. Obviously there are trade-offs, and we ended up wanting the extra space of a bigger van.

For future reference, also, the '12 Ford C-Max should be out in less than a year. It's very comparable to the Mazda5, a little van. Should be a winner for people that want just a bit more than a wagon.
 

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We sold our 2010 Outback Limited 2.5i a week ago, one day right before my wife gave birth to our 3rd child.

I was really sad to sell it. Our 5 y/o also tells us that he misses the OB.

Today, we just put a deposit on a 2011 Touring. My wife and I tell each other it was the right decision to sell the OB, but for some reason we can't bring ourselves to believe that. I guess we're having withdrawals.

Anyways, once our 2nd child (3 y/o) is out of his car seat, I'm going to make a plead to get another Outback...this time a 3.6R
 

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vqdriver said:
on a related note to the newb thread, we've all bought our 4th gens within the last few months so we know what's out there. and i know, at least for me, when shopping for the minivan a lot of possibilities popped up. other makes of minivans of course, but station wagons as well. i was particularly taken with the volvo and subaru wagons and i'm pretty sure that our next vehicle will be one of those.

the audi wagons were probably the nicest of all. but given their luxury bent and hi cost, i never seriously considered it as an everyday utility car.
I have always liked station wagons and we had numerous Subaru's in the past in addition to a Ford Escort wagon. They offered practical space with decent mileage although they all had very little power except the WRX.

My plan for sometime was to buy an Outback. With the latest design there is now plenty of room for average size adults in the back seat and I was pretty sure this was gong to be our next vehicle. As we were shopping for a car we looked at everything from wagons to minivans to SUV's. My wife really does not care for the looks of a wagon and was more interested in a small SUV. I am not sure what the difference is but I did not want to argue the point.

We took the latest Consumer Reports buying guide with 280+ cars and we looked over every page. We looked at a whole bunch and we drove several cars including the Subaru Outback and Forester, Mazda CX-7 and CX-9, Honda Odyssey, Crosstour, and CRV, and a few others as well.

When we stopped at the Honda dealer our main intent was to look at the CRV. It was ok but there was more road noise than I would like and the ride was nothing special. We then drove the Crosstour and having just driven the Subaru's earlier that day both my wife and I were thoroughly impressed. The Crosstour was a whole lot better in handling, interior design, seat comfort, and noise level. It was the best car we had driven up to that point. It did not have as much cargo space as the Outback but it was enough for us.

Even though our kids are grown and we really don't "need" a Minivan we have always kept one around due to their abundant cargo capacity and ability to haul stuff and tow a trailer when needed. It is hard to find a better vehicle for hauling 4 people with gear. We have had 4 different Chrysler vans over the last 20 years with the latest being a 2007 Grand Caravan. I thought it was pretty good until I drove the 2011 Odyssey. I could write several paragraphs about how many different ways it was better but there is no need to belabor the point. The Odyssey was several magnitudes better than the Grand Caravan. I was certain that an Odyssey was in our future but I thought it would be farther down the road than it was.

We ended up buying a leftover 2010 Crosstour at a significant discount and two weeks later we traded in the Dodge for the 2011 Odyssey. These were easily the two most impressive vehicles we looked and drove over the month we were looking.
 

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I own a 2007 BMW 328XiT (Touring = Wagon here in the states). It's not so much that it's a practical car (because it isn't) but more so a practical BMW. I also enjoy the exclusivity as they aren't the most popular cars.
 

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We shopped around a long time before buying the Ody (1-2years).

The '11 Sienna was okay. It handled more like a van, though, with some backend sway. The electric steering was horrible in my opinion. I couldn't, at any given time, detect how the front wheels were turned. And if you think the Ody steering is easy, you'll hate the Sienna, it's gotta be 10x easier. Maybe that's someone's thing, but not mine. The interior plastic and headliner just shouted "cheap".

The '10 VW Routan was nice. We almost bought one due to the great deals available at the time. It really drove and felt very different from the '10 T&C. I was quite impressed with VW's enhancements. We didn't quite agree on price, though, so we passed on the deal.

The '10 T&C/Caravan. 'Nuff said.

The '11 T&C/Caravan look promising, but we wanted a van and they weren't available yet to test out.

The '11 Quest also looks very promising. Again, not available to test out yet, and we didn't like the seating arrangement for our purposes. I really, really wanted the intelligent key, though.

The '10/'11 Mazda5. If you're looking at wagons, then I highly suggest looking at this vehicle. We were seriously considering going this route instead of a full-size mini-van (love saying that:)) This little van is very well suited for some people, and you end up saving a lot of money. Obviously there are trade-offs, and we ended up wanting the extra space of a bigger van.

For future reference, also, the '12 Ford C-Max should be out in less than a year. It's very comparable to the Mazda5, a little van. Should be a winner for people that want just a bit more than a wagon.
My sentiments exactly on the '11 Sienna.. worst steering of any car I've driven since a mid 1980's American full sized luxury barge, LOL!
 
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