[kingward]

I have a 2006 Odyssey with 75,000 miles on it. Several months ago, I started experiencing a very noticeable "shudder" between 35 and 45 mph.

I was told by an independent transmission guy that this is common in the Odyssey in recent years. A Honda tech guy told me that Honda had agreed to fix torque converter problems up to 100,000 miles.

However, when I called the dealership, the service guy claimed no knowledge of such an arrangement.

I am certain someone on this board knows for certain. I need to ascertain the truth before I proceed further. Thanks in advance for any help.

K. Ward
Lancaster, SC

 

[OdyProspect]

Try reading the 77 pages of this thread and you'll know a lot about the situation.

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-20...-tranny-shutter-judder-recall-updates-77.html

Honda has done some "Goodwill" cost sharing on these issues but they aren't obligated to for vehicles out of warranty. It comes down to the seriousness of the problem, dealer relationship and dealer customer service practices. Your miles aren't too high so your best bet is to get the van evaluated at the dealer and see what they say.

 

[kingward]

Thanks, I will be making further inquiries starting today. What about these "fluid" fixes some people are advocating?

 

[OdyProspect]

What about these "fluid" fixes some people are advocating?

My $.02 -

- New fluid almost always gives improved performance over old fluid.
- There are huge benefits to getting rid of the factory fill because most of the wear particles that will ever be created by the transmission are present after the first 10k miles.
- Most of the recommended fluids (Amsoil, Redline and now DW1) are premium fluids and better than the OEM Z1 or at least as good.
- There are no risks to fluid change and it will be good for the trans but may be a waste if they need to install a new TC. So you are out $100 or so in fluid plus labor.

If you have a programming or TC issue then a fluid will probably do nothing for that problem. If the motor mounts are at issue then it cannot do anything.

If you have a new TC installed I think a fluid replacement after 10k will be a good idea. To clean out any contaminates from assembly and new wear particles.

 

[kingward]

My $.02 -

- New fluid almost always gives improved performance over old fluid.
- There are huge benefits to getting rid of the factory fill because most of the wear particles that will ever be created by the transmission are present after the first 10k miles.
- Most of the recommended fluids (Amsoil, Redline and now DW1) are premium fluids and better than the OEM Z1 or at least as good.
- There are no risks to fluid change and it will be good for the trans but may be a waste if they need to install a new TC. So you are out $100 or so in fluid plus labor.

If you have a programming or TC issue then a fluid will probably do nothing for that problem. If the motor mounts are at issue then it cannot do anything.

If you have a new TC installed I think a fluid replacement after 10k will be a good idea. To clean out any contaminates from assembly and new wear particles.

What do you think of lube modifiers such as the Lucas additive?

 

[OdyProspect]

What do you think of lube modifiers such as the Lucas additive?

I think they are only appropriate only for trying to get another month out of a $500 car.

 

[stevescivic]

I wouldn't use lucas additive at all.

You could try changing all the fluid out with Redline D4 ATF. I personally haven't done it but from the 2nd gen forum it seems to help with some tranny woes.

 

[kingward]

Appreciate it, fellas. The dealership has told me that my vehicle's "vend number" doesn't qualify me for any help, so decision time is coming. It will have to get a lot worse before I shell out for a four-figure repair. Anything that can forestall that is a great help to me.

I'm still contemplating approaching higher management with this. Not only is my vehicle not high mileage, but I've driven five new Hondas off that lot in the last 17 years or so. They are going to hear from me.