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TPMS - Swapped Rims, How Long Before Alert Should Appear?

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DD, I have done a fair bit of TPMS work, including 2007 CRV LX. I can state with certainty that MY 2007 CRV LX does require reprogramming of onboard computer to install new TPMS sensors.
That said, the Odyssey itself has two types of TPMS systems, Touring had self learning system, while any other trim below required manual programming.
There is also a third option, when you clone sensor numbers that are on your summer wheels, to your winter wheel sensors, no additional programming is required.
That requires usage of specific "Programmable/Clonable" sensors. The sensors basically have re-writable memory instead of static, and you can change
essential parameters, such as Sensor ID. Autel makes them.

So, lets start with basics. When you turn your ignition on, but car not running, you should get a light check on your dash.
Do you see either TPMS sign light or Tire shape with exclamation mark light? I am not 100% sure, but some cars have one and some cars have two lights.
The lights also behave differently depending if you have an issue with sensor not registered vs issue of tire pressure being low.

If you don't see those lights, I would check bulbs or electric tape covering the lights.
Another quick check would be to lower one tire pressure below threshold value for TPMS light activation, so go 18psi in one tire. If light does not come on
you have a definite issue with your system.

If you get the lights, then the next thing I would do is to read IDs of the sensors that the are programmed in the car and read sensor IDs of the sensors in your tires.
If they match, then system is functioning correctly. If they don't match, well, that opens a door I don't want to open yet.
I use high end Autel scanner that is capable of all that TPMS work. There are cheaper TPMS specific computers by Autel, like 401, that much more reasonable to own,
but thats the only thing that it does.

As far as brand of sensors, that has no relevance, so long as the sensors are designed to work with specific cars' TPMS system. There is no requirement to have
4 identical sensors.

Good luck and let us know.
 
Thanks for the relevant information and troubleshooting steps.

The 2011 CR-V EX has 2 TPMS related lights. One for low pressure (exclamation point/low tire) and one for a TPMS system issue (TPMS), such as not being able to read a sensor. Both lights illuminate when the standard light check is done (key on, no start).

The manual says that a TPMS system light may be caused by swapping rims, but it's a may not a will.



In any case, I'll be taking the V back to the tire shop, hopefully tomorrow, to have them look at it. One of the wheels threw a weight (found it in the driveway) so they need to check the balance anyway. Since they told me that they would need to reprogram the sensors once I put the wheels on the car, I will mention the fact that I have not gotten a TPMS alert since doing that. I'll let them do their thing, then test the system by letting air out of one tire.

BTW...I do know that the TPMS system worked, at least up until a few months ago, when the original wheels were on the vehicle. A nail caused a slow leak and the low pressure alert symbol came on.

I'll let you know what I find out from the shop.
Thats what I was afraid off. Knowing for a fact that there is no magic, in my experience, the TPMS light should have started blinking on your CRV, once new tires were installed and you were out of the door within a mile or two.
Since you said that you installed the tires yourself, I simply have no explanation for this behavior.
One would need to know Honda's algorithm for determining when to display the TPMS light,
or perhaps your sensors are self learning variety.
 
My only explanation is that you did not hit the threshold for the warning light to come on.
As mentioned earlier, only Honda programmers would know when the light is suppose to come on.
It could be x number of starts, or y number of miles driven.
But its all speculation. It could also just be a bug in the code.
Once spring comes, I am sure you will be dealing with this again.

Did you try decreasing pressure before taking it for reprogramming?

Its a bit funny as the complain here is lack of light vs PRESENCE of light, which is most commonly an issue.

I had a number of really annoying incidents with Honda TPMS systems.

Programming the original sensor into 07 CRV LX was a PITA, mainly because of my Autel tool bug.
But then I had horrible experience where I bought Honda OE sensors for 07 Odyssey EX, and the sensor would not be
recognized by the car. Happened twice with two separate Honda sensors, so convinced that Honda part is not compatible with the
car. Ended up using aftermarket sensors each time.

While TPMS systems are great help to end users, the backend is a mess.

Definitely drop the pressure to verify that system is working.