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The filter is there for forensics, not maintenance. MrRanger, did you do any analysis on what was in the filter when you took it out?
 

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The filter is there for forensics, not maintenance.
Could this really be true? A filter whose purpose is only to record the condition of the transmission internals/transmission fluid? This is a bit of a mind-bending concept for me.

This filter could serve a diagnostic purpose, because we know that Honda has had reliability concerns in the past and they'd legitimately like to know what's going on in there. But it could conceivably be used to tattle on an owner who claims that they've kept up on maintenance but in reality hasn't. Which is good, I suppose. It keeps the warranties the rest of us enjoy within reach.
 

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The filter is there for forensics, not maintenance.
Could this really be true? A filter whose purpose is only to record the condition of the transmission internals/transmission fluid? This is a bit of a mind-bending concept for me.

This filter could serve a diagnostic purpose, because we know that Honda has had reliability concerns in the past and they'd legitimately like to know what's going on in there. But it could conceivably be used to tattle on an owner who claims that they've kept up on maintenance but in reality hasn't. Which is good, I suppose. It keeps the warranties the rest of us enjoy within reach.
I sensed a hint of humor with the forensics comment, lol. I was hoping we’d get a pic of a cut open filter too but I couldn’t put a funny spin on it asking like Egads
 

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The filter is there for forensics, not maintenance.
Could this really be true? A filter whose purpose is only to record the condition of the transmission internals/transmission fluid? This is a bit of a mind-bending concept for me.

This filter could serve a diagnostic purpose, because we know that Honda has had reliability concerns in the past and they'd legitimately like to know what's going on in there. But it could conceivably be used to tattle on an owner who claims that they've kept up on maintenance but in reality hasn't. Which is good, I suppose. It keeps the warranties the rest of us enjoy within reach.
I sensed a hint of humor with the forensics comment, lol. I was hoping we’d get a pic of a cut open filter too but I couldn’t put a funny spin on it asking like Egads
Hmm... maybe I am reading things a little bit too literally today...
 

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Oddly, i’m dead serious. In the second generation, where transmission failure was almost assured, one of the criteria for dealers doing warranty replacements was to drain the fluid through a filter and send the filter and it’s contents with the failed trans.

Now I think if any of you want to be that obsessive (or proactive) and change it on some schedule, go right ahead. I am also curious about the contents of the removed filter. Is it worth it?
 

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Damm, I've never changed my filter! Oil, yes, all the time. Found an OEM (25430-PLR-003) on ebay for $14.00 delivered.

Thanks for the post!!!
 

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Yes I’ve posted in the past the cut open filter contents. I’ve not found any problems inside other than a dark oil residue believed to be clutch band tailings! Very small amount so not a concern but glad I’ve changed it out.


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When I do my 4454 Trucool install I'm going to replace the OEM unit and install a Magnefine at the end of the loop as well in an easier to get too location. That one I'll change more often.

This video was my blueprint for how I'm going to tackle the OEM when I get too it.

Thanks for sharing!
 

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Oddly, i’m dead serious. In the second generation, where transmission failure was almost assured, one of the criteria for dealers doing warranty replacements was to drain the fluid through a filter and send the filter and it’s contents with the failed trans.

Now I think if any of you want to be that obsessive (or proactive) and change it on some schedule, go right ahead. I am also curious about the contents of the removed filter. Is it worth it?
I saw 2nd Gen Ody with the tranny all tore apart many years ago and stayed far away from Odys for many years. Am on my 2nd Ody now and those Transmissions still scare me!
 

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No easily serviceable filter in the 5-speed transmissions, you have to take the transmission out to replace it.

The video is on the 6-speed transmissions, which the 2011-2013 touring models and all 2014-2017 odysseys have. 2011-2013 LX, EX, EX-L have the 5-speed.
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Thanks for all this info...
What is the recommended replacement interval for this filter? I am at 90,000 miles on my 2012 Touring.
You mention 50-60 k later in this post, in that case i'm overdue!

cant find officially supported maintenance info anywhere... :confused:
 

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Thanks for all this info...
What is the recommended replacement interval for this filter? I am at 90,000 miles on my 2012 Touring.
You mention 50-60 k later in this post, in that case i'm overdue!

cant find officially supported maintenance info anywhere... :confused:
That's because there isn't any. Honda never actually specifies when or why to change that filter. It's as though it isn't even there.

The 50,000 - 60,000 mile interval is a best guess made by motivated, interested, experienced owners. There is nothing from Honda supporting that lifespan.
 

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cant find officially supported maintenance info anywhere... :confused:
You don't need a certified maintenance schedule. Maintenance is maintenance, doing more doesn't cause harm.
 

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That's because there isn't any. Honda never actually specifies when or why to change that filter. It's as though it isn't even there.

The 50,000 - 60,000 mile interval is a best guess made by motivated, interested, experienced owners. There is nothing from Honda supporting that lifespan.
That's disappointing...

if that filter is a paper filter, it will eventually break down and disintegrate, further contaminating the transmission and likely causing a severe failure.
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I saw your youtube video on it (thanks for that), and you opened up the filter. was the filter material paper?
 
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