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I got my 02 Ody in Dec. and I drove it to Vegas for the CES show on Jan... In a long stretch at 100mph both passenger and driver window emits a high tone noise (like when high winds hits the window of the house).. As I touch the glass it's vibrating very quickly..

I took it to the dealer and they told me I'm crazy to be driving that fast and the Ody is a brick and isn't meant to be driven at the speed. They also told me that they will fix it but they have to duplicate it first.. I'm going to see if a shop air is powerful enough to recreate the noise...

Lately, as the winds/gust have been picking up and the noise is heard even at 70mph on the freeway..

Anyone have this same problem?? Will changing the window seals solve the problem??

Thank you for reading..

Charleston

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Wind noise and isolating the interior from outside noises in the Odyssey is one of the MAJOR areas where Honda has fallen on its butt. If you look in some of the older posts, you will find a lot of complaints about this. I can tell you this, this was my first Japanese vehicle purchase. If Honda doesn't make some tremendous strides in this area and a few others by the time I am ready to trade in 2006-06, this will be the last Honda I will ever own.
My other complaints are some no-brainer items like hot all the time power accessory sockets, a center console, a glove box light and some lighting in floor area and under the hood. Also, some lighted Homelink and window buttons would be nice.

Fred
Question: Do you have Honda crossbars on the roof rails?

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The wind noise from my EX-02 is bad either. One time, I had to ask my wife the fold down the side mirror to see whether it could reduce the wipping sound. In another hand, I drive the infinity Q45 daily and I affraid the I might expect too much from a mini van.

Tom
Nestor

No, I have a bone stock EX-L with Nav..

Thanks,

Charleston

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I concur...the wind noise in my 02 EX-L is pretty bad. As a first time minivan owner, I assume it's caused by the shape of the minivan itself, which would leave me to believe they all have this problem. If it's windy out, the howling can get pretty bad even at 65mph.

Originally posted by CivicFerio:
I got my 02 Ody in Dec. and I drove it to Vegas for the CES show on Jan... In a long stretch at 100mph both passenger and driver window emits a high tone noise <snip>

[This message has been edited by mhellman (edited 02-27-2002).]
Okay, just wanted to make sure first.
I do notice a lot of wind noise when I drive my Ody at highway speeds but it’s partly due to the MacNeil Deflectors I have on. But I did try driving without them – it still sounds windy but not as loud.

But then again the Ody is huge and not as aerodynamc as some vans.

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Remember my problem is not wind noise.. it is a high pitch whistle noise coming from both driver and passenger windows at 100mph or 65mph with strong cross winds..

Charleston
I experienced this on my way home yesterday. 70 MPH into a 40 MPH headwind. What is happening on my 02 Ody is that the fast moving air over the doors was creating a very low pressure on the outside of the door. (This low pressure is similar to the lift created on the top of an aircraft wing). It was actually pulling the top of the door/window frame out a bit compromising the door seal, thus causing one heck of a whistle.
Without physically bending the top of the window frame in a bit to create a tighter seal, you will just have to live with it.

I used to work at an auto dealership, in the squeaks and rattle repair field and this was part of adjusting a door to fit the vehicle. Messing with the hinges screws up the main door alignment.

DO NOT TRY TO BEND THE DOOR. If you do, you could break the whole window frame off the door. This could really ruin your whole day. This is one that should be left to the dealership.

In my case, since I never drive at 100 MPH and rarely deal with the high winds that we have had here lately, I will just live with it.


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Remove the factory attenna and see if it makes a difference....having regularly driven 80-100mph in our 2002 that damn mast makes some unique whistles...time for the S2000 mod...

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If you don't hear the noises when the vehicle is stopped....I'd say it's wind noise
I've heard the whistle too, but only with crosswinds and I seriously doubt it's something that can be easily fixed. Let us know what you find out though.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CivicFerio:
Remember my problem is not wind noise.. it is a high pitch whistle noise coming from both driver and passenger windows at 100mph or 65mph with strong cross winds..

Charleston
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mhellman:
If you don't hear the noises when the vehicle is stopped....I'd say it's wind noise
I've heard the whistle too, but only with crosswinds and I seriously doubt it's something that can be easily fixed. Let us know what you find out though.

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I heard a high pitched whistling last night driving about 70MPH. There were some strong winds as we're in the middle of an artic front hitting us here in SE Texas. We don't have the crossbars on the roof rack.

I didn't notice the whistling the other day while driving 80-90MPH on the same stretch of freeway.

This noise is not good. No one wants a $30K, whistling van. We bought the RES for entertainment.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by htown:
I heard a high pitched whistling last night driving about 70MPH. There were some strong winds as we're in the middle of an artic front hitting us here in SE Texas. We don't have the crossbars on the roof rack.

I didn't notice the whistling the other day while driving 80-90MPH on the same stretch of freeway.

This noise is not good. No one wants a $30K, whistling van. We bought the RES for entertainment.
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I had a whistle that seemed (don't know for sure) to come from the mudguards, when new. Went away after the first shake-down trip and hasn't returned.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Maugham:
I had a whistle that seemed (don't know for sure) to come from the mudguards, when new. Went away after the first shake-down trip and hasn't returned.</font>
I think the whistling sound I experienced did have to do with wind speed/crosswinds/etc. After all, a minivan does have a large profile.

I heard the same noise coming from the top edge of my '92 Plymouth Grand Voyager LE while driving it the other day in strong crosswinds. That POJ is finally off my driveway and gone for good.
FYI there is TSB on the windshield about wind noise when going dow HWY have passenger press on
upper right hand corner or windshield if noise stops windshield needs to resealed
AustinOdyssey said:
FYI there is TSB on the windshield about wind noise when going dow HWY have passenger press on
upper right hand corner or windshield if noise stops windshield needs to resealed
Another interesting thing about the windshield is the gap in the plastic/rubber gasket around it -- there is a 1/8" gap on both sides along the roof pillar (towards the glass side of the gasket). When I first noticed this I thought the guys that installed the windshield screwed up (don't ask, long story) but I noticed the same thing on another Ody I walked by in a parking lot, so evidently it's supposed to be that way (by the way, could one of y'all check your van and see if it's the same -- that still bugs me). That seems to be a likely source of wind noise at highway speeds since the air being pushed over and around the windshield would create a lot of turbulence at this spot. If you have the same gap and notice a lot of wind noise at high speeds, try taping over the gap on each side of the windshield and see if that changes anything.
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Took my Ody to my dealer (Darrell Waltrip Honda - Franklin, TN) for this last week. When I originally asked if other customers have experienced this problem, the service depratment said no. I mentioned the dialog I'd seen in OdyClub.... suddenly they now remembered hearing about this problem. Anyway, they said the problem was with the front window seal/gasket, and they re-sealed it.

Now, I'll just need to wait until I'm on the highway again at higher speeds with the right amount of cross-wind and listen for it to see if the re-sealing worked or not.
Junior Samples said:

Another interesting thing about the windshield is the gap in the plastic/rubber gasket around it -- there is a 1/8" gap on both sides along the roof pillar (towards the glass side of the gasket). When I first noticed this I thought the guys that installed the windshield screwed up (don't ask, long story) but I noticed the same thing on another Ody I walked by in a parking lot, so evidently it's supposed to be that way (by the way, could one of y'all check your van and see if it's the same -- that still bugs me). That seems to be a likely source of wind noise at highway speeds since the air being pushed over and around the windshield would create a lot of turbulence at this spot. If you have the same gap and notice a lot of wind noise at high speeds, try taping over the gap on each side of the windshield and see if that changes anything.
If you look closely, you will see that the gasket is clearly made this way intentionally, with the wide apparent gap tapered away at the top and bottom. Why it is like this, I do not know. Today, I did tape over the area on the driver side before a road trip, and then removed the tape and observed some more. I think a high-pitched whistle part of the wind noise may be generated there, but it is not all of the wind noise I hear.
I know for a fact the stock antenna is a major source of whistling at cross winds. Take it off and you will see.

I still need to do the Insight/S2000 mod...I think the Insight looks a bit better. I will do this as time permits, but it is on my list of things to do to reduce wind noise.
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