I see all these post about issues with the vehicle. I would love to hear about the good or even great things about the vehicle. I just purchased a 2013 odyssey and i love it. Does anyone have any good comments or stories about There’s?
Good things about the odyssey
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If its about comparisons for me its about how it drives.
Consensus amongst auto journalists, "the odyssey drives like a 4 dr sporty sedan. The Sienna drives like a van."
This was confirmed by reviews from Sienna owners saying "my wife and I are in our 70s. The odyssey was out because we felt every bump in the road. Our Sienna rides like our old Cadillac, floating on air."
I never feel like either of my odysseys have been slow, in fact with my 2016 TEs 2nd and 3rd rows removed, which they are now its about 325lbs light and downright fun to drive.
Interesting while Sienna and Odyssey share similar designs one thing that stood out. Sienna (until hybrid 4th gen) has a simple torsion beam rear suspension. Odysseys have a multi link rear suspension that looks a lot like my C4 corvette did.
However I do wonder why Honda persists with timing belts, valve adjustments, and the ill conceived VCM.
Consensus amongst auto journalists, "the odyssey drives like a 4 dr sporty sedan. The Sienna drives like a van."
This was confirmed by reviews from Sienna owners saying "my wife and I are in our 70s. The odyssey was out because we felt every bump in the road. Our Sienna rides like our old Cadillac, floating on air."
I never feel like either of my odysseys have been slow, in fact with my 2016 TEs 2nd and 3rd rows removed, which they are now its about 325lbs light and downright fun to drive.
Interesting while Sienna and Odyssey share similar designs one thing that stood out. Sienna (until hybrid 4th gen) has a simple torsion beam rear suspension. Odysseys have a multi link rear suspension that looks a lot like my C4 corvette did.
However I do wonder why Honda persists with timing belts, valve adjustments, and the ill conceived VCM.
No sense in developing another gas engine that won’t make it another 5 years before being replaced by either an electric or hybrid unit. Keeps the labor market up for dealer service too.
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A van (especially Odyssey) is the perfect compliment to a Corvette (or other true sports car) in the garage!
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That was our story too. My wife was one of those no-minivans-ever people until we had twins and 3 in car seats at once. This was in 2011. I was going to look for say an 08 at the time but the new design was her preference, so we ended up buying a new 12. Looking back, I'm glad we did. I think we saw a minivan as a solution to a temporary problem with young kids, car seats, strollers, pack and plays etc. but it's just as useful now with sports gear and often other people's kids too.
Ditto. Of course, newer gen means more features for sure. Just not the design, but if I had to buy it then be it. Would still get it.
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Agreed - you can bet your next mortgage payment that Honda is watching the hybrid Sienna do just fine and the V6 in the Kia Carnival not move the needle at all. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the gen 5 were the last of the gas-only V6 Odysseys. Ideally, Honda learns from Toyota's mistake with the Sienna and goes with a hybrid V6 instead of the hybrid 4.
That's what I'm hoping, since Honda has the platform for a V6 hybrid with the 3.0L JNA1 from the 05-07 Accord Hybrid.
The Kia Carnival isn't selling because it's hideous. It looks like a dude dressed in drag. Minivans are feminine. Kia has the Telluride, then the Better But F@$% Ugly Telluride.
That's why my mom just bought a Telluride. She's a minivan person as well. Still rocking an '06 Odyssey.
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Go over to a Carnival forum, They are paying $3-15K over list and act like they are happy to get one. Dealer Pricing and Ordering Experience
I'm sure they’re great. Car And Driver loves them, they’re just butchy and ugly. I’d need to blackout that giant piece of plastic by the third window and probably lots of other trim as well.
You forgot to add back in the cost of electricity. To be truly fair though, you have to compare the MPG of the non-hybrid version to get the real numbers.
When I bought our (used!) Volt, the math at the time worked out to be ~70mpg equivalent when on electric and it gets 40-45mph in hybrid mode. That was $0.22/kWh and $4.00 gas (prices for electric and gas in my area at the time). At the moment with $6.35 gas and the same electric cost, the numbers are better.
Even then, it STILL takes a ton of time to pay back an expensive vehicle with gas savings.
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Good read on EV’s
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A lot of people rent and park on the street where space is a free for all so not how sure charging would work? This winter in my city it was a particularly cold season and everyone was plugging their vehicles in to help from tough cold starts. The amount of complaints of cords on sidewalks/tripping hazards even made it newsworthy.
Definitely written by a couple guys who have never driven or owned an EV... It isn't all sunshine an roses, but EVs will be the future. It won't happen as fast as the dreamers believe, but it will happen.
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For sure!
I've had two rides in a Lucid. Beautiful car, compares with an S class Benz in size and price. A friend has money down but is still not sold. His condo has no provisions for EV charging yet. He would have to charge at a store down the street and walk home.
All you need is access to a 120V outlet to get 50-100 miles of range at home every day. That's what everyone that is down on EVs is forgetting. Most people have reasonable access to a plug - at least those that are good candidates for owning an EV. You don't need a level 2 charger with 60A available to charge your car...
DC fast charging, etc. should generally be used for road trips or those rare times where you need extra range sometime in the middle of your day.
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This is an exemplary review
Slightly OT, but there is a TSB out for that problem (16-063). Had our 2016 fixed under warranty. Part is kind of expensive otherwise.
Back on topic: I've been very pleased with our 2016. I've also been pleased with the OdyClub community, who have helped me avoid many of the common pitfalls of the van, and make it that much more enjoyable and reliable.
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