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2006 Honda Odyssey - 250k miles - P2413 EGR Issue

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#1 ·
I have a 2006 Odyssey Touring with about 250,000 miles.

I recently had a check engine light, and it's throwing the P2413 Code. This shows as being an Exhaust Gas Recirculation issue.

I suspected the EGR may be faulty, and so replaced it with an OEM Honda EGR, purchased from a Honda Dealership.

I reset the codes, and the engine light popped back up after less than an hour of driving.

For good measure, and to rule them out, I also replaced the MAP sensor and Air Intake Temp sensor as well with OEM equivalent parts (DENSO and Delphi, accordingly.)

After resetting codes, and a short drive, the car is still throwing a P2413.

I'm aware that the 1st and 2nd gen Ody's had issues with the EGR design which required substantial cleaning of the EGR port and surrounding area from soot. This Gen 3 has an upgraded design that apparently has resolved this issue with older Ody's. When I removed the EGR, I didn't see much soot in the engine EGR port on the left side (passenger side) but I sprayed it with cleaner and gave it a good rub to remove any loose soot or particulate. The right side EDR port on the drivers side, seemed to be an oil reserve? It was just all oil, and I don't know enough about the EGR to know if this is the design, or a sign of my issue.

In terms of engine performance, the engine runs well at all RPM's. It stutters a little right when I turn the engine off, but I don't have any bands of RPM's that run really rough. The exhaust smells a little rich.

Any help or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. I'm hoping to clear the code long enough to pass inspections and get registration.
 
#2 ·
Well, no input from the group, so I ended up taking the Ody to a mechanic. He said they had to clean out the EGR passages, which were nearly blocked off. (I still have no idea where these passages are on a 3rd gen Odyssey... but there you have it.) Once the passages were cleaned, they put on a new EGR. It didn't fix the issues. (which makes sense since I'd already tried two new EGR's.) They realized that the signal between the EGR and the ECU might be a faulty ECU, and replaced the ECU with a used one off e-bay. That fixed the issue, the check engine light cleared, and I was able to pass DEQ and get the car registered. All in was $100 for the used ECU and 2 hours labor. Not too bad.

If anyone else needs this same repair take note that the ECU's are VERY specific to the model of the car. You'll want to pull your ECU, check the exact version on the sticker, and replace with the same kind. They also had to do an update, which I think put the ignition/key information from my old ECU onto the new one. Good luck if you have to do this yourself. I'd probably swap the ECU and have the shop do the last steps.
 
#3 ·
I appreciate the followup. I have a 2016 with the same code (P2413) and no improvement with a new EGR. I'm not entirely clear on how to clean out the passage(s) but it sort of looks like I have to pull the intake manifold and then hack at it with a coat hangar. Or just take it to a mechanic instead of standing in the weather for hours trying to do it myself.