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Something is wrong if they are done at 20k, get the dealer to check, they may be able to replace under warranty and fix the root cause if it’s not your driving habit where you slam brakes hard every time.


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I didn't pull the brakes off, but it definitely sounds like the warning for the brake pads and it seems like the inner pad had less material left. My wife was trying to use their online scheduling system to make an appt but surely they can schedule something like brakes sooner. I'll have to call when I get her schedule.

I suspect they'll consider it normal wear & I'll just end up eating the dealer cost for changing the brakes if we take it in. 20k was an estimate on the mileage, could be 25k or so.

 

If the inner pad is wearing faster than the outer, it means the piston isn’t compressing with vacuum.

Do not buy auto parts at your local auto parts stores, they charge an arm and a leg.

Go to Rockauto.com and order a set of pads on there. Changing out pads is really easy, and will hold you over until they can warranty your brake issue.

You can also order on amazon for a very fair price.

 

I'll look around. I used to get good discounts at the auto parts stores and often needed the parts because something was broke so I never bothered to order online.

 

I have a 2018 model bought in late 2017. Recently the front brakes started squealing. We only have 20k miles on the van but after looking at the brakes the inner pads may be wearing faster.

Maybe wearing?
Did you look through the wheels spokes to assess the state of outboard pads?
Removed the wheels to inspect the inboard pads?

Just because brakes are squealing, doesn't necessarily mean that the pads are worn.
3 out of 4 times I hear squealing come from the brakes of my cars it's due to a stone that got stuck between the caliper and the rotor, or rotor and the dust shield.
Only one, luckily quick and easy, way to confirm: take the wheel off, and inspect!

Checked online at AutoZone and Oreilly and neither show front brake pads as being available? Are their no aftermarket pads available yet?

You can buy the pads from the dealer, and DIY install them.
The last time I did that, the pads were exceedingly reasonably priced, and are always in stock.

Also, anyone else have to change theirs so soon?

20K miles is kinda early.
But if you drive the car in spurts, let it sit outside, and allow dust to form on the rotors, they will start acting like cheese graters, and will significantly shorten the lifespan of the tires.
If the rotors aren't perfectly smooth and show signs of rust pitting - replace them as well!

If the inner pad is wearing faster than the outer, it means the piston isn’t compressing with vacuum.

Clarification - pads are pushed towards the rotor with the force of hydraulic fluid pushing against the piston (which pushes onto the pad). When the pressure is relieve, the pad is knocked back a bit by the surface of the rotor, but there is no vacuum involved in brake system operation.

On floating design rotors with one inboard caliper (common in most non-race car applications), it's entirely normal to see higher rate of wear on the inboard pad that is directly depressed by the brake piston.
The outer pad gets involved when the caliper transfers the squeezing pressure to the side opposite to where the piston is mounted. There is always some distortion in caliper movement, and the outboard pad typically applies a little less pressure than the inboard pad, and that gets reflected in slight difference in pads' wear rate.

Changing out pads is really easy, and will hold you over until they can warranty your brake issue.

I totally agree that swapping brake pads (and rotors) is by far the easiest and the highest money saving regular maintenance job that a person can perform on their car.
However, I'm pessimistic that there can be any warranty claim on brake pads wear. Pads are a consumable part of the car, just like tires are, and I haven't heard of any automotive OEM that would warranty either one.

Good luck,
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There is always some distortion in caliper movement, and the outboard pad typically applies a little less pressure than the inboard pad, and that gets reflected in slight difference in pads' wear rate.

Yep, totally agree.

A small difference is normal. However, a large difference could mean a sticking caliper. Experience helps to identify which is the case.

@davidwt, definitely continue to pursue getting an appointment at the dealer. They will give you a thorough assessment of the cause of the squeaking brakes. With that in hand, you can choose to get any recommended done right then and there (possibly under warranty - don't totally give up on that), or take it home and consider getting it done at an independent shop.

Dave

 

I'm having the same problem - you can read all about it here.
https://www.odyclub.com/forums/81-2018-odyssey/354145-ebc-replacement-rotors-don-t-fit.html

Long story short - have the dealer check it out and try to work with them first. If not, you can pursue other viable options.

Yes, while I really like EBC and other brands, right now EBC DOES NOT HAVE rotors for the 18/19MY Odyssey as per the Sales Director in Vegas:

"Steven Wullner Fri, May 3, 1:46 PM (6 days ago)
Hi Steven, Thank you for this the seller has the kit listed wrong, the correct stage 1 kit is part number S1KR1708 and the correct stage 3 kit is part number S3KR1207. The kits the seller has listed is for up to 2017, we are on back order for the rear rotors with no ETA at this time."

I went with OEM in the end to keep things cool with the warranty IF a problem should arise but others will choose an aftermarket solution.

Steven

 

Just noticed a misuse of their/there in my original post *cringe*

As a bit of background the last time my wife told me the brakes were making noise it was because the pads were completely gone (on a Honda Pilot). The mileage on the van is 25k, so I figured it could be time, who knows. I didn't have a lot of time to check, but they were definitely squealing and there was pad left, but they make it hard to check the inside without pulling the caliper.

So I had more time to check it out this weekend. I ordered a set of pads online since I was having trouble finding them at the local parts stores. And when I finally pulled the caliper, they were fine. Nowhere near needing to be replaced. Can probably go another 60k miles on them. I hope I remember I already have pads.

I tried cleaning them up and lubing them. Still a hint of a squeal though.

 

I'm awaiting pads for my 2018 Cdn Touring (awaiting because they are actually back ordered. Hard to believe)

But I will say I now have 64000 kms (40000 miles) on my 5th Odyssey. This is the longest I've ever gotten out of pads.

Now if I could only replace them before the rotors are destroyed as well.

 

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iting 2 months my pads arrived