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#24 · (Edited)
Prizm said:
the directions on the label suggest adding in while the car is idling on park. I don't know it would cause any harm by pre-mixing in the jug but seems it does not
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True. Its been dozens of drain-fills in all our vehicles (honda/toyota) over 4 years so far this way. And we only normally add this (premix) during our drain/fill routinely now, ready to pour in.

Most likely they wanted to make sure (liability-wise) you do not go over fill max line and most cars level is checked engine running, either idle or park, at normal engine temp. If someone wanted to just add this additive after, say reading about the product or after the fact, then the fluid level would matter in several ways I guess.
 
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surgeon said:
When selecting on amazon, 10 oz is 10 and 32 oz is 20:
https://www.amazon.com/Lubegard-60902-Automatic-Transmission-Protectant/dp/B000F2EPFY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473262881&sr=8-1&keywords=lubegard%2Bred
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Thank you very much. Five gallons...hmmm.

achung73 said:
In case someone is searching for the platinum.
https://www.amazon.com/Lubegard-630.../B002MB57UI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473266192&sr=8-1&keywords=lubegard+platinum
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The difference is...?
 
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Red is additive without friction modifiers. Platinum is additive + modifiers. Platinum makes your aftermarket ATF "like" honda/toyota ATF. That translates to silky smooth shifting, not crisp/harsh. Much info and discussion on this topic is in this forum, lots in 2nd gen.

See post 17 above. Crisp vs silky is a matter of preference. Main thing is you get the additive in there.
 
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Ohio Jim said:
When you add the 1 oz per quart of Lubegard Red, is that taking into account 8.3 quarts total in the Ody trans, or only 3+ quarts when you perform the 3+ drain and fill?
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Buy the Valvoline MaxLife in the 1-gallon (or 4 quart) bottle. Add (4) ozs of Lubegard to that bottle. Add to the transmission. I wouldn't worry about "mixing" it too much other than maybe a gentle agitation - too much and you could make it 'bubbly'.

If you buy your fluid in 1-quart bottles, just add 1 oz to each bottle. You save money by buying it in the 1-gallon container though plus you'll use it.
 
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Prizm said:
the directions on the label suggest adding in while the car is idling on park. I don't know it would cause any harm by pre-mixing in the jug but seems it does not
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I don't know about other car models, but on our '05 Odyssey as well as our '99 Accord, the ATF fill location is not a traditional dipstick fill (as everyone here knows). If you open those up while the car is running, will fluid splash out ? I don't know.... I guess if it's in "Park", nothing in the transmission is 'moving' though, is it ? Shouldn't be as other cars tell you to check the level while running as well.
 
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I never used the ATF fill location. I've been using a long funnel that snug fit on the dip stick tube. I don't think the fluid is going to splash out from the fill port as the car on park but I might be mistaken
 
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hallstevenson said:
I don't know about other car models, but on our '05 Odyssey as well as our '99 Accord, the ATF fill location is not a traditional dipstick fill (as everyone here knows). If you open those up while the car is running, will fluid splash out ? I don't know.... I guess if it's in "Park", nothing in the transmission is 'moving' though, is it ? Shouldn't be as other cars tell you to check the level while running as well.
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A lot of things are moving in our auto transmissions whenever the engine is running, whether in Park or Neutral.

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I still don't know if you'll get fluid splashing nimbly bimbly all over the place right meow, with that cap off.

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Best way is to fill, amount going in to match the amount you took out. Afterwards, check the dipstick and fine tune it, if needed.

OF
 
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Hi Guys,
After researching and studying hundreds of posts regarding to the Odyssey transmission problems...My conclusion of the shuttering, thumping and slipping of transmission in our Odyssey roots back to insufficient ATF cooling capacity and basic transmission design problems...Since we can't do much on the design, we can at least trying to minimum and prevent the problem....

So when my transmission had all the problems above, I did "flush" about 15,000 miles ago. Now, my car has about 87,600 miles....My transmission has been acting up again since the SoCal weather has been hitting over 100 all week long.... Harder shift, slightly chattering... is back temporary? So I dig out this post and found out the "[FONT=&quot]Lubegard 60902 Automatic Transmission Fluid Protectant" might help.

My questions is, my ATF fluid still light pink color, should I do a drain and refill and add new factory ATF fluid, or can I do the same amount of drain and refill but just add Lubegard directly? Also I am confused on how much to add the Lubegard,,, It says 1 oz per qt... Touring has 3.6 qt, so how much should I mix? 1/2? 1/3? 1/4?

Really appreciated for your help! [/FONT]
 
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Total capacity of atf is 8 qts, you can add 8oz of LG directly to the dipstick by first using a siphon to extract 8 Oz of atf and then add in your LG into dipstick and disgard the 8oz of atf you removed. But since you're almost at 20k mile interval on the atf (especially with the high temp and if you've been towing) you can do a drain and fill and add the LG to your new container of atf with the above metioned ratio of 1oz LG to 1 qt atf.

Hope this helps!
 
#35 ·
Hi Mnuovo19,
Thank you for the explanation. Now, how much do I need to "drain" the old ATF for the typical drain & refill?

 
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When you drain the atf, via the drain bolt. Measure the contents that came out before you disgard it. That way you will know exactly how much to refill with the new atf, and by having the LG premixed in the new atf, youll be all set. Just be sure to follow the procedure in you owners manual for checking the atf fluid level on page 352 to ensure you will be good on the d&f procedure prior to and after the drain and fill.

Also, reference the thread below, post #6 by Navar. There are many threads on this topic and some very knowledgeable guys have contributing to them. Be sure to read up if you haven't been or don't know the service history of you atf.

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-2017-odyssey/309969-dw1-maxlife.html

cheers
 
#37 ·
I would not be worried about +/- 8 oz. If you're ready for a D+F anyway, and you want to be as careful as possible, you can carefully check the level meow before doing any draining or filling.

Then when you drain (it may not be obvious, but you remove the drain plug and just wait until it stops coming out), you can pour the drained fluid into an empty milk jug to see meow much came out. If you're like me, rather than eyeballing it, you will have pre-calibrated your milk jug by pouring in water and making sharpie marks as you go.

Then you'll have a better estimate for how much needs to be added.

At the end of it all, you should check level using the procedure in the owner's manual, but the above steps should help avoid any errors.
 
#38 ·
Sorry for the amateur question..... So when I just do D&F, I will drain all old ATF out, then top off with the new ATF just once correct? I am thinking swtich to Maxlife from Walmart... So I will need:

2x gallon Maxlife
1x 10oz Lubegard Platinum

Anything else I will need to perform D&F?
 
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csufl said:
Sorry for the amateur question..... So when I just do D&F, I will drain all old ATF out, then top off with the new ATF just once correct? I am thinking swtich to Maxlife from Walmart... So I will need:

2x gallon Maxlife
1x 10oz Lubegard Platinum

Anything else I will need to perform D&F?
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Good question. Answer is that ... NO ... you will not get ALL the old fluid out.

You only get about 1/3 of the old fluid out by draining. Exactly how meowch drains out varies with the specific AT type, but this is a common feature of virtually all automatic transmissions. Search on here and you will find many more details, including using multiple consecutive D+F's (with diminishing returns).
 
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