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Question on Removing Fuel Pump/filter Assembly on 01 Odyssey

17K views 15 replies 6 participants last post by  dvdchvy  
#1 ·
Ok, I'm trying to replace the fuel filter on my '01 now that it has 108k on it. Yes, I know it's not replaceable but I'm anal and keep thinking if the filter was replaced then you wouldn't have to replace the pump eventually (the dealer just said you replace it when you replace the pump). Anyway, using this thread as inspiration, http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2633 , I have the fuel lines disconnected and I'm trying to get the assembly out.

My question is it appears that the large black ring is something that screws on the tank and holds the pump assembly in place. As such, it should just spin off, correct? I've tried and tried to get it to turn and it won't budge. Am I correct, and is this black ring just threaded with normal direction threads on the tank? Any hints at removing it? I know there's supposed to be a special tool but I was thinking there must be another way to remove it.
 
#5 ·
sclough said:
Any clue where to get that spanner wrench? Autozone doesn't have it, Napa is clueless, the dealer is clueless...

I've been tapping on it with a screwdriver, but it's just digging in and destroying it. It's not moving.
If you are "destroying" anything...stop....

OTOH, if you can find a replacement plastic ring, thats another situation....dealer part only I'd assume....

Last fuel pump replaced ring just spun off but that was the Caravan...

;) ;) ;)
 
#7 ·
Well, by destroying I simply meant the screwdriver was digging in rather than turning it. It's not really destroyed yet.

Anyway, looks like I'm going to have to give up for today. I know there have been a few posts indicating people have changed the filter, but I can't even find where to get the tool to get it off. The filter will probably be hard to get as well since it's not typically replaced.

This is really a bummer because I have a feeling if the filter is replaced, the pump will probably last the life of the car.

If anyone knows where to get the tool, and if there are any other gotchas once you pull the pump I'd be very grateful for the info. :)
 
#9 ·
I havent seen the ring you describe, but I'd probably see if I could build a tool out of a c-clamp or other handy material(steel angle iron, steel sheet, 2x4 with two square-head bolts screwed into it at the appropriate distance apart)... I think the key is that you gotta be simultaneously applying pressure to both sides of the ring(opposite directions, of course!)

On the other hand, if it wasn't broke, I don't think I'd have even started this project.

I've never had to replace a fuel pump on any car I've had, OTOH, my Integra has an inline filter that gets replaced from time to time.
 
#10 ·
sclough said:
Well, by destroying I simply meant the screwdriver was digging in rather than turning it. It's not really destroyed yet.

Anyway, looks like I'm going to have to give up for today. I know there have been a few posts indicating people have changed the filter, but I can't even find where to get the tool to get it off. The filter will probably be hard to get as well since it's not typically replaced.

This is really a bummer because I have a feeling if the filter is replaced, the pump will probably last the life of the car.

If anyone knows where to get the tool, and if there are any other gotchas once you pull the pump I'd be very grateful for the info. :)
I'm not sure replacing the filter is going to extend the life of the pump. Pumping at 40 psi plus the filter is going to allow enough fuel to pressurize the injectors. This is not the older 3-5 psi mechanical fuel pumps of yesteryears where any fuel restriction can become problematic.

I'm thinking you are "spinning your wheels" as they say with this one. Perhaps just heed the advice earlier and replace it if and when the fuel pump goes kaputt. I don't believe fuel restriction will cause it to fail with the pressures these run at.

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#12 ·
Well, I've flushed the transmission fluid and do a drail/refill about every 15k. So far so good, as I'm on the original tranny at 108k.

I guess I have a thing with fuel filters. Years ago I had a car suddenly stop because of one (yes, it was back in the low pressure days of carbs). Then, when driving across Texas, we had a clogged filter stop us. Thank the Lord it happened when we were coming into El Paso and not in the desert. Anyway, since getting stuck twice over the course of a couple of years because of fuel filters I've always had a thing for changing them every 30k or so. I just feel like it's a ticking time bomb and I don't want my wife on the side of the road on a trip because the filter finally clogs.

Anyway, due to the lack of posts on this topic on the board maybe I am wasting my time. I just don't see how the filter won't get clogged over time.