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Transmission Hesitation / Shudder on 2012 Odyssey EX-L

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#1 ·
There is another thread on the 2012 Touring here http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-odyssey/151932-odyssey-touring-transmission-issues-6.html

But that's for the 6-speed.

We are experiencing the same issues on our 5-speed EX-L, with 7000kms on it.

When speeding up, there is a hesitation between 1st and 2nd gear and 3rd and 4th. Slight, but it's there. You get the slight feeling of falling forward for a half a second.

Also, if you accelerate to, say, 50 km/h, then let your foot off the gas, there is a shudder, and slight deceleration.

This is the 3rd Odyssey we've had the pleasure of driving, all ECO mode equipped, and the other 2 were smooth as silk (2005, 2008).

I've taken it to 2 dealers here, both took it for a test drive, and both said it's normal.

The other thread mentions a mysterious software update that made it go away in the 6-speed. Is there anything forthcoming for the 5-speed?

Thanks!
Greg
 
#4 ·
transmission hesitation/shuddr on 2012 odessey ex

hi, i just purchased 2012 ex model. While driving back home , it was okay on highway. Once I got into local driveway, I experienced exactly same problem. Then, it disappeared. The car only has 30 miles now. What should I do? When it was idle, it generated trasmission noise and then it disappeared.
Can anyone suggested me what to do??
 
#5 ·
transmission hesitation/shuddr on 2012 odessey ex

hi, i just purchased 2012 ex model. While driving back home , it was okay on highway. Once I got into local driveway, I experienced exactly same problem. Then, it disappeared. The car only has 30 miles now. What should I do? When it was idle, it generated trasmission noise and then it disappeared.
Can anyone suggest me what to do??
 
#7 ·
Have a significant shudder issue with my '12 EXL-NAV with only 2,000 miles on it. Has been in twice and last time they said there was a software update and I prayed that was the fix but the shudder is still there. It seemed to disappear for a couple of days but it is back and worse when cruising at about 48-52 MPH and at 70 MPH. I guess there needs to be another software fix? This sucks and i is making me hate my car.
 
#12 · (Edited)
I think mine too. It around the 50mph and 70mph, mostly noticable when coasting. I don't think it is related to the ECO mode, more maybe the transmission. I read somewhere else, to turn O/D off and it should dissapear, then it's the torque converter, is that right?

I want to make sure what it is, before going to the dealer, we all know they brush us off quick and say it's normal or try everything.
 
#13 ·
Both my old '11 EXL (traded with 6800 miles) and my new '12 EXL (2000 miles) have 2 identical transmission issues............1 is a very frequent shudder at highway speeds when lightly on the throttle. Not sure if it is torque converter or cylinder management vibration through a bad engine mount, etc, but it drives me crazy. 2nd issue is a random (every couple hundred miles) "panic shift" that occurs when accelerating and is between 2-3 or 3-4 gears.....it will SLAM into gear.

Keep 'em coming folks, we LOVE the van other than this, Honda dealer never figured out the problem with our '11, so we traded it in (on an AWD Sienna that had horrible seats, and ended up trading that in on the '12 Oddy).....and now we still have the problem with our '12 :(
 
#15 ·
Perhaps his dealer did feel it, and told him what mine did, which was "yes, they all do that"...... Which we KNOW isn't accurate. Not ALL the Odysseys do it, but it's an easy way out for a dealer who doesn't want to dig into the issue to find the root cause.
 
#16 ·
My 2011 EX-L also has this shudder when driving with foot lightly on the pedal, it is extremely annoying and seems to be happening more often now.
 
#17 ·
Just picked my 2012 EX-L up tonight w 38miles on it. I noticed the ever-so-slight shutter and gear hesitation everyone is talking about on here when I w a s entering highway at very conservative speed because I want to be easy breaking her in. I hope it does progress.
 
#18 · (Edited)
I am on my second Odyssey with the VCM. In general, the Odyssey does make some quirky noises, and as said previously I am willing to bet most of what people are experiencing is the VCM kicking on and off. The Odyssey even has an active sound dampening system that broadcasts the inverse wave of background sounds through the speaker system. My understanding was that the van has this system specifically to lessen the sounds of the engine in the various phases of VCM. I would bet when driving on various types of road surface at different speeds, the sound dampening system is working primarily to cancel out road noise and some of the engine noise gets through.

I am not an expert on this, so I could be completely wrong. Although you do need to keep an eye on the transmission, I wouldn't become obsessed with the sounds you hear. I'm just saying that because I did for a while. But that being said, I would be sure to change the trans fluid at regular intervals. I was surprised at the amount of metal filings stuck to the magnetic drain plug when changing the fluid at half the recommended mileage. Perhaps that is because the magnet seems bigger on the Ody plug as opposed to other vehicles I have serviced. Does the Ody rely solely on that magnet on the plug, or does it have a bunch of other magnets on the bottom of the pan like other vehicles? If there is only that one magnet, that could explain why it seems like there are more shavings.
 
#24 ·
Awesome, so with VCM, same as mine. If you can get a software update ##, a TSB ##, or anything else, I would really appreciate it:) Thanks, Ben
 
#27 ·
Yeah, I don;'t believe it's the tires either. Keep us posted if you get them to look at it again. Mine is parked for winter, hoping they have a software update by Spring when we bring it out for summer duty;)


I don't think it's the tires. I found a good stretch if road I can take the tech next time. More like transmission.


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#32 ·
So I have noticed a shudder during the shift when you moderately accelerate from zero to 31 and wait for the shift at 31ish. I think that shudder / vibration feel is the same I feel at other speeds. I will try to get back to the dealer soon.
Does it occur when the engine is cold before the VCM reaches the operating temperature to kick-in? I ask because there is a 35 MPH Limit road I frequently take and I almost know by heart when the VCM will kick-in after taking off from the red light, but, for the last couple of weeks, under very cold weather conditions, the VCM engine temp has not been reached at that stage yet and I feel nothing.

I'm not trying to say that it is not an issue, but to get the dealer/Honda/whoever to focus on the right root cause. See a similar TSB under the 2011 Honda Odyssey (TSB 11-033), possibly an updated PCM software can prevent it from kicking in under those conditions