I've been watching videos and reading various diy's and have been seeing different amounts filled.
What is the correct amount? 3 or 3.5? 3.3 perhaps?
What is the correct amount? 3 or 3.5? 3.3 perhaps?
Transmission Fluid Drain and Fill: 3 or 3.5 Quarts?
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Thanks guys. Have you guys tried filling through the dipstick? Besides being slower in filling, any issues that may be of concern? I'm just worried that I don't have the right tools to crack the fill bolt open. I have 3/8 and 1/2 sockets but only have 3/8 long extensions that my not cut it. Pardon my ignorance but 3/8 extensions will provide me less torque than 1/2 right? I have a 1/2 breaker bar and 1/2 to 3/4 adaptor as well.
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Filling through the dipstick hole is slow, but it's all I've ever done, sine every Ody we've owned has been a Gen 2 with a pre-mid-2004 "improved" tranny. Not a big deal, but I wish our vehicles had fill plugs.
I can't comment on removing the fill plug, as neither of our current Odys has one. I understand that Honda does torque the he11 out of it, and it can be difficult to remove.
If I read it correctly, you're assuming that 1/2-inch drive sockets and extensions generally can handle more torque than their 3/8-inch drive counterparts...under most circumstances, that is correct; 1/2-inch drive tools are more robust than 3/8-inch drive.
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I can't comment on removing the fill plug, as neither of our current Odys has one. I understand that Honda does torque the he11 out of it, and it can be difficult to remove.
If I read it correctly, you're assuming that 1/2-inch drive sockets and extensions generally can handle more torque than their 3/8-inch drive counterparts...under most circumstances, that is correct; 1/2-inch drive tools are more robust than 3/8-inch drive.
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Thanks again. I may go thru the dipstick for now.
But FYI, I have a 1/2 inch breaker bar and socket but will have to use my adaptor to use the 3/4 extension and 17mm socket. You think I will have enough torque given the tools mentioned? Again 1/2 breaker bar with 3/4 extension bars for the 17mm socket?
I've never removed the ATF fill bolt since I acquired the van in Nov 2010.
At first I was tempted to buy the tools (breaker bar, socket, adapter, extension) to unscrew the ATF fill bolt, plus a long funnel to reach the fill hole.
I didn't want to spend money on tools that likely would not be used again, so I looked at filling via the dipstick tube.
I already had a vinyl tube that fit snuggly on the outside of the dip stick tube so, it was just a matter of finding a funnel that fit inside the vinyl tube.
The end result was a contraption that cost a few dollars that I've used on 4 ATF drain & fill.
At first I was tempted to buy the tools (breaker bar, socket, adapter, extension) to unscrew the ATF fill bolt, plus a long funnel to reach the fill hole.
I didn't want to spend money on tools that likely would not be used again, so I looked at filling via the dipstick tube.
I already had a vinyl tube that fit snuggly on the outside of the dip stick tube so, it was just a matter of finding a funnel that fit inside the vinyl tube.
The end result was a contraption that cost a few dollars that I've used on 4 ATF drain & fill.
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I'm confident that would be sufficient in terms of ability to apply torque combined with tools that won't break. It's a fill plug, not an axle nut, so if I had that setup, I'd be perfectly confident going into doing that task of removing that fill plug.
Just curious...where did you get your 3/4-inch drive 17mm socket and extensions? As part of a complete 3/4-inch drive tool kit? I've got one by Craftsman, and they're pricey!
As txn says, funnel and tubing works great. Also, there are plenty of people who've posted on this forum that they've done exactly as he has, and not even used the fill plug. The Measu-funnel is a real help. You can get them from Amazon or Wal-Mart.
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I filled mine through the dipstick, just go slowly and take your time so it doesn't overflow!
I bought a black funnel (couple of dollars and no extra tubing needed) from Walmart (auto dept) which fits tightly OVER the ATF dipstick tube. I don't know why anyone would ever want to do it differently. Why screw around with that fill plug??? 
Put the black funnel on the tube, and pour it in. Actually goes fairly quickly (Course I haven't tried doing that at -25F). :ahh:
Measuring the amt that came out is fine ONLY if the level on the dipstick was at the correct level before you drained it. as Ody Family mentioned
Buffalo4
PS: If you are going to do several drain and fills, I would suggest using a new crush washer after the last drain. Many have never used a new one, but I got burnt once, and only once by re-using the old one. :ahh:
Put the black funnel on the tube, and pour it in. Actually goes fairly quickly (Course I haven't tried doing that at -25F). :ahh:
Measuring the amt that came out is fine ONLY if the level on the dipstick was at the correct level before you drained it.
as Ody Family mentioned Buffalo4
PS: If you are going to do several drain and fills, I would suggest using a new crush washer after the last drain. Many have never used a new one, but I got burnt once, and only once by re-using the old one. :ahh:
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Bolt won't budge used dipstick to fill and just over 3 quarts.
Old thread but it saved me today. I have a 2000 that serves family trip and hauling duty. I went to do the Drain and fill today ( Dealer wanted $220, but they use a special additive so it must be better).
I could not get the filler bolt to loosen and tried the tricks in this thread but with a 3/8 extension and a cheater pipe. I could tell that something was going to break so I backed off. I was going to get in the car and go buy a 1/2 inch extension but found this thread.
As mentioned here I did the fill via the Dipstick tube. THis was going to be a pain as only a tiny funnel would fit into the tube. I spotted a piece of Shark Bite tubing in my garage. It is labeled 1/2 inch srd9 PEX. I decided to see of this would fit over the tube becouse my funnels would not. Turns out to be prefect. Snug no leaks. I cut it to size, then grabbed a kitchen funnel and a lighter. I used the lighter to warm the pex so it was pliable and this allowed me to push the funnel down into the pex.
This made it super easy to add the Fluid and I did not spill any. Mine took 3 quarts and 1/2 cup. The 1/2 cup was 4 ounces of LubeGard Platinum additive. The shop that did my transmission exchange a few years ago recommends it as well as others on this site. (LubeGard recommends one ounce per quart but I mistakenly measured it by weight) 3 quarts of Honda ATF would have been just below the full mark and not a problem, given the capacity of these transmissions.
I know many ask about the amount of fluid and I think it depends the angle of your Van along with the starting fluid level. If you use ramps I would assume this affects how much drains out. My driveway is sloped and when I use ramps my van is perfectly level. I would suspect that if you use ramps on a flat surface you just might need that extra 1/2 quart. But your dipstick will tell you, and if your doing this via the tube it is super easy to add more.
Old thread but it saved me today. I have a 2000 that serves family trip and hauling duty. I went to do the Drain and fill today ( Dealer wanted $220, but they use a special additive
so it must be better). I could not get the filler bolt to loosen and tried the tricks in this thread but with a 3/8 extension and a cheater pipe. I could tell that something was going to break so I backed off. I was going to get in the car and go buy a 1/2 inch extension but found this thread.
As mentioned here I did the fill via the Dipstick tube. THis was going to be a pain as only a tiny funnel would fit into the tube. I spotted a piece of Shark Bite tubing in my garage. It is labeled 1/2 inch srd9 PEX. I decided to see of this would fit over the tube becouse my funnels would not. Turns out to be prefect. Snug no leaks. I cut it to size, then grabbed a kitchen funnel and a lighter. I used the lighter to warm the pex so it was pliable and this allowed me to push the funnel down into the pex.
This made it super easy to add the Fluid and I did not spill any. Mine took 3 quarts and 1/2 cup. The 1/2 cup was 4 ounces of LubeGard Platinum additive. The shop that did my transmission exchange a few years ago recommends it as well as others on this site. (LubeGard recommends one ounce per quart but I mistakenly measured it by weight) 3 quarts of Honda ATF would have been just below the full mark and not a problem, given the capacity of these transmissions.
I know many ask about the amount of fluid and I think it depends the angle of your Van along with the starting fluid level. If you use ramps I would assume this affects how much drains out. My driveway is sloped and when I use ramps my van is perfectly level. I would suspect that if you use ramps on a flat surface you just might need that extra 1/2 quart. But your dipstick will tell you, and if your doing this via the tube it is super easy to add more.
Nice, but you don't get to see how many metal filing are on the magnet. But, every 3rd time, you might want to take a look, if you think its needed.
But then, if you find a lot of filings, you just get worried!!!
😪🤐😱🤓I might just try that 12v pump idea as getting older is making it more difficult to crawl under there in the parking lot!!
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