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Hi - I just looked at a 2013 Odyssey today, and the salesperson said you could remove the center seat in the 2nd row, and then slide the remaining passenger side seat to the middle, alongside the driver side seat. Thereby, creating a little alleyway for someone to enter the passenger side door and easily get into the back, while still having 2 full size seats in the 2nd row.

However, I can't find this configuration in the brochures. Can this really be accomplished?
 
However, I can't find this configuration in the brochures. Can this really be accomplished?
Tell the salesperson to demonstrate it to you :p. No, it is not possible, it was possible in the previous generation. There are a couple of threads around talking about it. I believe the main reason is the new wide-mode option
 
Hi - I just looked at a 2013 Odyssey today, and the salesperson said you could remove the center seat in the 2nd row, and then slide the remaining passenger side seat to the middle, alongside the driver side seat. Thereby, creating a little alleyway for someone to enter the passenger side door and easily get into the back, while still having 2 full size seats in the 2nd row.

However, I can't find this configuration in the brochures. Can this really be accomplished?
I can do that with my 2008 EX-L but I have no clue for the 2013.


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Hi - I just looked at a 2013 Odyssey today, and the salesperson said you could remove the center seat in the 2nd row, and then slide the remaining passenger side seat to the middle, alongside the driver side seat. Thereby, creating a little alleyway for someone to enter the passenger side door and easily get into the back, while still having 2 full size seats in the 2nd row.

However, I can't find this configuration in the brochures. Can this really be accomplished?
You can't slide it but you can move it over. I have try it and it does work.
 
I have written to Honda and told them that taking away that feature was a big mistake. I told them everything I liked about the van as well but pointed out the the reason the used ones are holding resale so well is because parents really like that side aisle. If they did away with "wide mode" and made the middle seat 3-4 inches wider so it wasn't too bad to sit on by it self - like the old 8 passenger Siennas - they would have an awesome van. I expected a "Gee, thanks" canned written response - but someone actually called and talked to me for quite a while about it. While it won't help with the current van... if it's something you'd like to have back/improved on, WRITE TO HONDA! :)

At least with the new Ody if you have a child seat in the center seat, it doesn't matter - you can remove a seat, have 2 sit in the middle, have a side aisle. The new Toyota just sucks all around in that regard.
 
At least with the new Ody if you have a child seat in the center seat, it doesn't matter - you can remove a seat, have 2 sit in the middle, have a side aisle.
An item to consider is that the middle "aisle" (if the middle seat is removed) is now very wide compared to old gen vans or other van brands, so access to the 3rd row is very straightforward in comparison and, at the same time, it still keeps both 2nd row passengers with a window. If you have kids, that is a big plus...
 
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We just traded our 2009 Odyssey for a 2013 and I am so disappointed about this feature being gone. It just doesn't make sense. Yeah, I can take out the middle seat but then my baby has to go by the window instead of being safer in the middle. And I guess I just cross my fingers that I don't get pregnant with twins who would both need to rear face in the 2nd row, blocking access to the middle aisle. I really regret buying the new van. The salesman told us this was an option but we didn't find out he was wrong until after the sale. It just doesn't make sense that they would take away options with newer models. All of the new features seem to cater to adults, not families with young children (which you'd think would be the main customer). Except for the joke of a feature that you slide the middle seat in the 2nd row forward for easier access to a child. Um, children are supposed to be rear facing until at least age 2. Mine rear face to closer to 3. I don't know who would want a 2-3 year old sliding up that close giving them less room. A baby, yes...but it won't work with a baby since babies are facing the other way.
 
All of the new features seem to cater to adults, not families with young children (which you'd think would be the main customer).
Interesting, many 3rd gen owners have indicated the exact opposite and have stepped away from an Odyssey because of that. I actually got mine because of the kids. Some threads below that might help you organizing the little dudes. I think the options are much better than any other vans out there (including the tethering and latching)

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/20-ki...s/20-kids-safety/139001-2011-honda-odyssey-ex-l-3-car-seats-across-2nd-row.html

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/54-2011-odyssey/147896-2-child-seat-configuration.html
 
We just traded our 2009 Odyssey for a 2013 and I am so disappointed about this feature being gone. It just doesn't make sense. Yeah, I can take out the middle seat but then my baby has to go by the window instead of being safer in the middle. And I guess I just cross my fingers that I don't get pregnant with twins who would both need to rear face in the 2nd row, blocking access to the middle aisle. I really regret buying the new van. The salesman told us this was an option but we didn't find out he was wrong until after the sale. It just doesn't make sense that they would take away options with newer models. All of the new features seem to cater to adults, not families with young children (which you'd think would be the main customer). Except for the joke of a feature that you slide the middle seat in the 2nd row forward for easier access to a child. Um, children are supposed to be rear facing until at least age 2. Mine rear face to closer to 3. I don't know who would want a 2-3 year old sliding up that close giving them less room. A baby, yes...but it won't work with a baby since babies are facing the other way.

How many kids do you have and how many more are you planning?

The ability to put the captains chairs together was nice but you couldn't really put a child seat in the old plus-one (a few worked but the new one is way more versatile) If you put the captains chairs together in the old to have the youngest in the middle, then you could only have 2 people sit in the middle row.

I agree there are some features about the old ody and old siennas that I miss. I do wish you could still put the captains chairs together or that as in the old 8 pass sienna the middle seat were more decent so someone could really SIT there comfortably vs as a last resort and you still had a side aisle for access or storing stuff that didn't fit in the trunk.

But you can totally use the middle seat of the new ody for a child seat so it's not a huge issue while a child seat is in use.

I have my oldest behind the driver and my youngest rf in the center seat. Then I have 2 girls in car seats in the back row and the space to get back there with the passenger side seat removed is huge, much bigger than the aisle if you had two captains chairs together. I like having that space to change a diaper.

I have the passenger outboard seat removed for ease of access but if you wanted there are several child seats which will fit in the center and still allow the outboard seat to slide forward for back seat access.

It is tough to use all 6 spots back there if there are child seats in the mix - the old Sienna had a wider 3rd row so you actually could get 6 people back there - but if you wanted to you can rf 2 in the middle and still have access to the back - just use an outboard and side position.

I had a deep and almost psychotic level of hatred towards my van when we first got it but it has grown on me. Unless you need to fit 6 kids back there you should be able to make things work. I don't know how many kids we're talking about here, though.

You can still put a child seat in the middle so if that's your only complaint, it's not a problem. You can put a child seat AND sit two people comfortably, not easy in the old one.

FWIW I have twins and when they were little in the old sienna I had one behind the driver and one in the middle and my oldest on the passenger side outboard seat. Which you could do with this car as well. Once I had #4 the girls were no longer rf so I moved them to the back row and no one sat behind the passenger but had ages been different with the twins born as 3 and 4 rather than 2 and 3 I could have had them rf in the same spots, and two ff kids in the back row - which I could still do with the ody. The biggest shortage in the ody is how hard it is to find 3 car seats that fit the 3rd row but this was true of the old ody as well - it has the narrowest back row of all the vans.

But the tethers across the back row are awesome. I was missing one in a spot I needed one in my sienna.
 
sorry - can't edit again - use outboard and center if you want 2 rf seats in the middle with access to the back.

I'm just not seeing this as a problem unless you have or are planning more kids than will reasonably fit back there - unfortunately it is more of a 7.75 passenger vehicle, you need to do some juggling to make 8 fit, with car seats in use...
 
YinzerMama -- I have 3 kids. I don't know how many more I will have. I'd guess 0 to 3 more. We only ever used the old plus-one if we had out of town visitors. We rarely used it but it was so nice to have, just in case. We never had a problem fitting a child seat in the 2nd row with 2 more people but it was always kids so it worked. 2 adults would have been uncomfortable.

I tried putting the child seat in the middle in our new one but it was such a pain, we have now removed the middle seat. It just didn't make sense to have a big huge seat sitting there that no one ever sits in that we have to constantly push back and forth. Meanwhile 2 of my kids are crammed together in the middle row while the nice big seat sits empty. For some reason the middle seat isn't center, it's closer to the drivers side so the child seat overlaps the big seat some. I'm also not loving that there are now 2 less arm rests in the middle row. My points it out but says he "doesn't mind", yet he keeps leaning all over his brother's child seat since there's no arm rest anymore. Before they had it great with the two big seats next to each other but still 2 arm rests in between their seats vs being on top of each other with no arm rests.

So now we have the two big chairs, each missing an arm rest....and then the middle is empty so it's easier to access the third row and they kids have more space and no big chair being a big waste of space. This is proving to be problematic too. My 3yo keeps using his foot to press the button to open the door as soon as we park or before I put into drive when we first get in the car. We can't figure out how to make it so that he can't do this. I would think would be a way to turn it off but so far no luck with the manual. Hopefully we are just blind and will find that option soon. This is especially concerning since now he has no room if he falls out of his seat before I can get over there. Head will go straight to the pavement vs having a landing space in the old van.

I used to do all my diaper changes in the space by the door when the 2 captain's chairs where pushed together. So I guess that'll be out with any future kids. We also used to keep a storage bin for coats, hats, gloves, books, diaper bag, toys, etc in front of the child seat in the 2nd row. Now that's out since everyone has to walk through the center. So where do you all store stuff like that in the new ones?

I did consider putting all 3 of my kids in the middle row but then what was the point of buying a van? We're all crammed in the first half of the car and the back row never used. Might as well have saved money and bought a nice sedan. But I guess it's better to have the van since we may have more children. I did think about twins and our current configuration would not work since no one would be able to access the third row but it would have worked in my 09.

Definitely feeling the hatred for the van right now but it makes me feel better to know you did too and were able to get passed it. It does seem like it would be better if we are blessed with more babies. But then again, we tend to trade our cars/vans in every 3-4 years.
 
We have all Radian 65s for child seats so they are super narrow. My oldest is not in a child seat anymore but he only passes the 5step test in the middle row since the seat belt height is adjustable so he pretty much has to sit right behind the driver. The thing about our old van was that everyone had more space which is pretty critical right now with my 3yo being in such an unpleasant stage. Having him so close to my oldest was torture. Whoever made up the term 'terrible twos' lied. 3 is way worse. I just never thought this would be an issue in the new van. I figured if anything, we'd have more space and more options. Not less.
 
Why not remove the driver's side captain's chair completely? Move the passenger captain's chair into "wide mode" so there is more space between it and the 2nd row middle seat. Install the 2 carseats in the passenger captains chair and the middle 2nd row. Now you have room for diaper changes, bin for winter clothes an 3 year old in middle can't open the door with his foot. 3rd kid in booster walks right into the back and straps in.
 
I think you just get used to what you have and it throws you for a tailspin to have to adjust.

We got the 8 passenger Sienna when I was pregnant with my twins specifically because I wanted all 3 in one row. I figured if we had 2 captains chairs and someone had to sit in the back, the kids would fight over who got the comfortable seat and who got shafted in the back. So this way they were all equally un/comfortable! My oldest was still in a car seat at the time so we put 3 across the middle and it was fine. Never even thought about armrests since, coming from a sedan, it wasn't something we were giving up. I never felt weird having a van with all the kids i the middle row since then I had the whole back for diaper changes, double stroller, costco run, whatever. It worked out great for us. The seats in the old Sienna tumbled forward rather than slide which is super easy and put the seat out of the way without removing it, so once we had kid #4 we could easily throw open the space to the back (passenger outboard), have 2 in the middle, 2 in the back. Worked great. But we had a leak in that van that drove me batty for 2 years and we finally gave up and moved on.

I had ruled out the Ody when we bought the old Sienna because the 8th seat for the Ody was lousy compared to the Sienna. The new Ody was close-ish to the old Sienna and I jumped on that fact, without noticing small things that drove me nuts once I got home. Such as what is up with the 3rd row windows not opening??? I didn't check that at the dealer because why wouldn't they??? I thought every van did. I didn't realize the seats slid vs tumbled - I assumed all seats tumbled! I was positively batty with how much I hated this car. I just couldn't do with it what I did with the old one. I hated to actually REMOVE an outboard seat because then why bother having bought an 8 person van??? If I left it in though I didn't have a spot for diaper changes and I can't trust my girls to put the seat back when they climb back there and if they don't do it right it slides around when I drive. I finally gave in and removed it. And it works. I can't fit 8 but if I need to fit another person in without warning I can move one of the girls' seats from the 3rd row to where my son normally sits and then fit 2 un-car-seated passengers in the 3rd row along with a car seat. Tight, but works. With the old Sienna I couldn't easily fit a person between the girls' 2 frontiers so I really have about the same amount of people space as I did then, if I didn't move a seat. It's not the same but I have figured out how to make it work.

We didn't even consider used with our new car because I was afraid of getting another problem vehicle with no warranty (I didn't know you can get extended warranties and so forth on used cars). Had I known you can put the captain's chairs side by side in the old Ody and take the 8th seat out - it would have been something to consider. I didn't know you could do this, though. I wouldn't have the awesome tethers in the 3rd row that the new has though... so...

Anyway. We have a Britax marathon in the middle. I think my oldest kind of uses it as his armrest. I had considered a radian because they have more legroom but I don't want to have to use a seat belt to install and it seems that works best to rf the radian? So we're sticking with the marathon until it expires. Maybe a different car seat in the middle would solve your problems?

How old is the child in the back? Can you leave the middle seat in so there is an armrest but have whoever sits in the back just move the seat each time? (Or if that seat is on the driver's side maybe move it yourself?)

Two kids in car seats in the middle, and put the oldest back in a booster in the back if he needs it?

I've pretty much worked around the differences for us. I even went and drove an old Sienna 8 passenger which still had original warranty left on it and we could have extended that even more - but couldn't commit to it. I've come to really like certain things about the Ody. I still have a soft spot for the old Sienna but have come to see the new ody not as better or worse, just different. I think that over the long haul it will be a better choice for us as the kids get older - the 3rd row is REALLY comfy for an adult so no one will be smashed back there. I don't know how it compares to the old ody though. We're done with 4 and I think this car seats 4 kids perfectly and allows a few more to be squeezed in if needed.

It's been kind of like moving to a new house and suddenly the waffle iron and crock pot can't fit in the same cabinet, you freak out, then you arrange to suit and get used to it and forget how it ever was in your old house.

I know too well that feeling of "Oh crap why did I buy this car" - and the old ones are really holding their value so it seems crazy to trade in the new for an old one. Siennas are more reasonable in price but hard to find 8 seats and I don't know what features you like in your car - the 8 seaters are VERY basic.

I hope you come around to like the new car. But taking out the putting two seats together was a silly thing to remove. The middle seat should either be bigger or you should be able to move the outer seat in - even without armrests enough room for your butt is a nice thing!

Write to Honda and tell them. ;) If enough people point out that they miss this feature maybe they will bring it back.

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