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2005 Odyssey AC Compressor Clutch won't engage

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#1 ·
On a previous thread I found the following instructions for testing at the compressor clutch relay socket:

"Remove the [compressor clutch] relay and use a test light, with the clip connected to ground, and check for two terminals to have power. One will be for the load (the clutch) and the other will be for the relay coil. If you don't have two power feeds then you have a fuse issue. If you have two power feeds, then you've narrowed down most of the system already. Now check the other two terminals. Connect your test light clip to battery positive and use the test light to check for ground on the other two terminals. You should get a ground through the clutch coil on one and the other should have no ground until the PCM grounds it to turn on the compressor."

With the test light clip connected to ground, I verified that two terminals of the compressor relay socket had power. (Had to turn ignition key on to get second terminal to show power.)

With the test light clip connected to power, I turned on the engine then turned the AC ON to get the PCM to ground it to turn on the compressor. The other terminal of the relay socket would not light up. This indicates to me that I have an open in the clutch coil. Is that correct?

If so, how can I be sure the problem is confined to the clutch coil and not the compressor?

When I turn on the air conditioner, I see the rpms dip slightly (and radiator fans come on). Is this all I need to verify that the compressor is working?
 
#6 ·
@sherjo, have you ever had your A/C system serviced?

I'm asking about where the automotive HVAC tech evacuates all of the refrigerant, pulls vacuum, and then recharges with the proper mass.

OF
 
#8 ·
You probably need to have your AC system professionally evacuated and recharged as stated in #6 above. This needs to be done about every 8 years or so. A low charge in the system will prevent the compressor from engaging. Also, even if your AC clutch relay is good, you should upgrade to the new and improved Mitsuba relay.
 
#11 ·
Attached a gauge, it read slightly low.
Added small amount to spec. Avoided over filling as that can cause the system to not work. The previous/original owners had all service done at Honda dealerships and kept all records. We are out of state so cannot access that information. However, the air conditioner previously would freeze us out. Very cold.

I want to point out that the electrical test of the empty compressor relay socket (see my description of test in my first entry, above) appears to point to an open in the clutch coil.

My original question:
". . . how can I be sure the problem is confined to the clutch coil and not the compressor?

"When I turn on the air conditioner, I see the rpms dip slightly (and radiator fans come on). Is this all I need to verify that the compressor is working?"
 
#12 ·
Attached a gauge, it read slightly low.
Added small amount to spec. Avoided over filling as that can cause the system to not work. The previous/original owners had all service done at Honda dealerships and kept all records. We are out of state so cannot access that information. However, the air conditioner previously would freeze us out. Very cold.

I want to point out that the electrical test of the empty compressor relay socket (see my description of test in my first entry, above) appears to point to an open in the clutch coil.

My original question:
". . . how can I be sure the problem is confined to the clutch coil and not the compressor?

"When I turn on the air conditioner, I see the rpms dip slightly (and radiator fans come on). Is this all I need to verify that the compressor is working?"
Swap out the coil and see if it resolves your issue. It isn't expensive nor it needs system to be emptied and refilled.
 
#16 ·
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I'm just about convinced that this godd@mned company is responsible for more ruined HVAC systems than all other snake oil A/C "repair" companies combined.

OF