[13oddy]

The front tire looks substantially larger in diameter than the rear tire, though the rear of the van is closer to the camera. Even the front wheel well looks a lot larger. Optical illusion?

I think Reddit poster is doing some Photoshop to get attention.

 

[WiiMaster]

Per Honda we now have parts catalog for 2025 model year. Some exterior style changes, same powertrain (J35 SOHC, 10 speed automatic). Overall a refresh, not a redesign.

Trims include SportL (leather) EXL Touring and Elite.

It looks like Solar Silver Metallic will be added as a new color option as well.

I am starting to see dealers list the 2025 Odyssey on their websites as well, saying they are "in production".

 

[blairellis]

I am starting to see dealers list the 2025 Odyssey on their websites as well, saying they are "in production".

I keep seeing 2025's come up on dealerships inventory.
"In production" is the most common item listed but one on Fisher Honda lists 3.5L, so hopefully this is correct and its not a I4-Hybrid. Other dealerships list FWD, so I am assuming this is confirmation that they are not doing AWD like Toyota's hybrid rear end.

https://www.fisherhonda.com/inventory/new-2025-honda-odyssey-elite-mini-van-passenger-fisxa084127700001/

I did find it interesting that there was mention of an "Extended" trim designation on one dealerships site. Likely might be a typo, but that would be an interesting update to have an "extended" segment behind the 3rd row (think Tahoe vs Suburban and how cavernous the trunk is behind Suburban's 3rd row).

@WiiMaster - Me too
Check out page 2 for some of the discussion.

 

[GoLowDrew]

Is Odyssey the first to get two MMCs?

 

[WiiMaster]

Is Odyssey the first to get two MMCs?

No, far from it.

 

[Hodog16]

The first generation Range Rover Sport and the Ford Explorer from the 90s come to mind.

 

[Viver1]

Per Honda we now have parts catalog for 2025 model year. Some exterior style changes, same powertrain (J35 SOHC, 10 speed automatic). Overall a refresh, not a redesign.

Trims include SportL (leather) EXL Touring and Elite.

VTEC lives on!

 

[kernel]

With VCM there is no VTEC, just I(maginary)-Vtec!

 

[tyman]

Per Honda we now have parts catalog for 2025 model year. Some exterior style changes, same powertrain (J35 SOHC, 10 speed automatic). Overall a refresh, not a redesign.

Trims include SportL (leather) EXL Touring and Elite.

I assume 2026 gets the new DOHC engine from the pilot.

 

[HondaGoBrrr]

It might ... but I hope not. We've already had two DOHC V6 engines shred themselves ... cams, heads and seals all ruined, likely will need engines. All new cars under 5k miles.

 

[blairellis]

2 out of how many?
What was the cause of failure?

 

[JP_]

Per Honda we now have parts catalog for 2025 model year. Some exterior style changes, same powertrain (J35 SOHC, 10 speed automatic). Overall a refresh, not a redesign.

Trims include SportL (leather) EXL Touring and Elite.

No EX anymore? I guess not enough profit to do just one trim with cloth seats and charge less.

 

[blairellis]

Cloth seats and kids don't mix
Oil and water.

 

[tyman]

It might ... but I hope not. We've already had two DOHC V6 engines shred themselves ... cams, heads and seals all ruined, likely will need engines. All new cars under 5k miles.

Whoa bill. Can’t just come in and drop that without more deets.

 

[blairellis]

Whoa bill. Can’t just come in and drop that without more deets.

I have a 23 Pilot (DOHC) and none of these issues w/over 33k miles.
A sample size of two is nothing. There's manufacturing defects out there, sure, but they are most oftentimes the exception rather than the rule.

 

[HondaGoBrrr]

I don't have more details at the moment. Y'all are right it's not a large sample as there have been many of those new Pilots sold here and I only know of two with engine issues. Not trying to fear monger at all, I'm just leery of this new platform and how Ford-like this engine seems.

 

[Coastie05]

No EX anymore? I guess not enough profit to do just one trim with cloth seats and charge less.

Probably because most people don't buy the EX...that's why they got rid of the LX too.

 

[blubbs]

I don't have more details at the moment. Y'all are right it's not a large sample as there have been many of those new Pilots sold here and I only know of two with engine issues. Not trying to fear monger at all, I'm just leery of this new platform and how Ford-like this engine seems.

Can you please check out in the 2025 order guide interior trim pieces for the dash, the infotainment parts, the gauge cluster parts, and the presence of anything like 360 camera mirrors, heads up display, etc? We’d be very interested to confirm some of the details that M_J shared and try to answer some of the questions he hasn’t been able to yet.

 

[WiiMaster]

With VCM there is no VTEC, just I(maginary)-Vtec!

Only on the VCM-1, VCM-2, and VCM-4 models. VCM-3 models like the current J35Y engine do have regular VTEC in addition to VCM.

 

[tyman]

I have a 23 Pilot (DOHC) and none of these issues w/over 33k miles.
A sample size of two is nothing. There's manufacturing defects out there, sure, but they are most oftentimes the exception rather than the rule.

No one said it was widespread. But on a new engine, when some of them start grenading, it raises eyebrows.