[smufguy]

As @ArmyCa said, the filer resembles the insides of a traditional oil filter.
In the 10spd transmission, the filter is internal and once you remove the ATF warner 'puck', you can access it. The honda 5spd and 6spd also came with these types of filters.

In the 9spd (ZF derived) the filter is external and can be found in the AWD equipped models using this transmission.

 

[mikidymac]

As @ArmyCa said, the filer resembles the insides of a traditional oil filter.
In the 10spd transmission, the filter is internal and once you remove the ATF warner 'puck', you can access it. The honda 5spd and 6spd also came with these types of filters.

In the 9spd (ZF derived) the filter is external and can be found in the AWD equipped models using this transmission.

Has anyone tried changing the filter? I didn't see anything on google about changing it.

 

[DJVAN]

Has anyone tried changing the filter? I didn't see anything on google about changing it.

Watch this video on youTube, you will see it in first ten minutes...

 

[mikidymac]

Watch this video on youTube, you will see it in first ten minutes...

Wow, thanks! That looks really easy.
I think I would change it when doing the coolant maybe around 3-4 years or 30-40k.
Maybe drain and fill and filter every other time. Reminds me of my motorcycle oil filters.

 

[smufguy]

Wow, thanks! That looks really easy.
I think I would change it when doing the coolant maybe around 3-4 years or 30-40k.
Maybe drain and fill and filter every other time. Reminds me of my motorcycle oil filters.

It is straightforward when the transmission is on a table.
Use extreme caution if you are planning to go that far and pull all the electronics aside and get to the ATF warmer and pull it out to access the filter. Forgetting to connect a ground or clip a connector, would be a headache to figure out and address.

My fluid, at the time of change, had a hint of brown (as expected). I noticed that in my Ridgeline as well. Subsequent changes had more red hue to it than the initial one.

 

[riverfour]

I was accessing the level of difficulty to drain and fill my 2018 Odyssey Elite (10 speed, seemingly Type B transmission) when I was doing oil change. I took the splash guard and the transmission metal cover away, but still find the space to access the fill bolt and level check screw is very tight. I wonder there is enough space to move around. Also it is difficult to have a direct sight on the fill bolt. I took off the air intake at the top, but there is almost no help to see the fill bolt.

I used to do drain and fill my old 2007 Odyssey, and it was like a breeze, simplier than oil change. It appears Honda really made it difficult to maintain by owner now (The oil filter right above the control arm).

If the $500 is the transmission service fee, it is definitely a rip off.

 

[smufguy]

You cannot look at the fill bolt head on, you cannot see it from the top for sure.
You can only see it from the bottom once the splash guard is removed. This is a two hand job.

The 5spd & 6spd transmission with the fill bolt on the top were easy to access, but gone are those days as these transmissions and packaging is more complex.

 

[digitalextremes]

If you buy one of those Mityvac ATF fill tools or alike plus the L shaped attachment needed to put the pipe into the hole, you should be good.

See attached example:

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[smufguy]

What is the ideology behind a $230 fancy jug to do the ATF service? Typically folks use that to replace fluids via the dip stick tube; these transmissions do not have one. A $4 funnel and a generic piece of tubing works just fine. Am I missing something here?

 

[riverfour]

You cannot look at the fill bolt head on, you cannot see it from the top for sure.
You can only see it from the bottom once the splash guard is removed. This is a two hand job.

The 5spd & 6spd transmission with the fill bolt on the top were easy to access, but gone are those days as these transmissions and packaging is more complex.

Thanks for the info. I will try to do it by myself.

 

[Brik]

For completeness I just wanted to add this PDF instruction sheet from the other thread.

 

[smufguy]

For completeness I just wanted to add this PDF instruction sheet from the other thread.

It is already linked in post #1............................

 

[CRegan]

I don't mean to revive an old post again, but back in the days of the 5 and 6 speed transmissions, I always did the drain and refill method 3 times per the Honda standard. I know most dealers just do it once (it would be cost prohibitive to do the drain and refill 3 times in one service considering the labor needed to pay someone to go drive the vehicle).

My question is, does Honda still want us to drain and refill 3 times with these 10 speed transmissions? Or is one enough?

 

[jiantao]

I don't mean to revive an old post again, but back in the days of the 5 and 6 speed transmissions, I always did the drain and refill method 3 times per the Honda standard. I know most dealers just do it once (it would be cost prohibitive to do the drain and refill 3 times in one service considering the labor needed to pay someone to go drive the vehicle).

My question is, does Honda still want us to drain and refill 3 times with these 10 speed transmissions? Or is one enough?

Honda doesn't actually want you changing the transmission fluid... they want you to take it to the dealer to get it done.

Regardless, the 3x drain and fill method is a good method regardless of car (Honda or not). The whole point of it is to get as much old fluid out as possible, since only ~50% or so of the fluid comes out each time you drain. If your fluid is not dirty, you don't really need to do the 3x method. A more frequent maintenance interval (say, change it 1x every 20K miles) is preferable to waiting 50-60K miles and then doing the 3x method.

 

[CRegan]

Honda doesn't actually want you changing the transmission fluid... they want you to take it to the dealer to get it done.

Regardless, the 3x drain and fill method is a good method regardless of car (Honda or not). The whole point of it is to get as much old fluid out as possible, since only ~50% or so of the fluid comes out each time you drain. If your fluid is not dirty, you don't really need to do the 3x method. A more frequent maintenance interval (say, change it 1x every 20K miles) is preferable to waiting 50-60K miles and then doing the 3x method.

Yeah, I got the feeling they are trying to make it less DIY friendly. The dealer did do a drain and refill on it right before we purchased it. I might just hold off on doing anything further then, until I get 20k down the line or once a year maybe.

 

[smufguy]

My question is, does Honda still want us to drain and refill 3 times with these 10 speed transmissions? Or is one enough?

the 3x DNF is only needed if the transmission was operated in extreme weather conditions or driving habits. It would also be required if ATF maintenance schedule was not followed as indicated by the MM.

Though the 3x DNF will give you a peace of mind, it will also drain your wallet. This is not recommended for typical ATF service.

I do my ATF services and since I know the way in which I drive and operate the vehicle, I dont do the 3x DNF. My Ridgeline is almost at 250K miles and I bought it brand new over 11 yrs ago with no transmission issues. My G5 is edging towards 60K miles.

 

[mhjett]

Fantastic write-up, thanks for posting. Only 5700 mi on our 2022, but I'll be going this myself once it's time...

 

[bighorns]

Yup, to trap blow-by gases. Cant provide a confirmation till I pull the cylinder heads and inspect the valves.
The catch can is there just a a preventive measure as many with GDI engines have complained about carbon buildup. In the J35Y engines, the placement of the fuel injectors and their spray pattern does claim to 'wash' the back of the valves (by design), but I figured it does not hurt to be cautious.

This is from my oil change this past Sunday

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This is from my previous oil change in June 2020

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Though I cannot attest to these amounts being a lot (or not), I can imagine the possible effects of them when touching the hot intake valves, or even the lower intake runners.

I would like more info on your catch can and the installation please!

 

[bighorns]

On our 2008 Ody I would just do the drain and fill method every other oil change. 147K miles with no issues

 

[smufguy]

I would like more info on your catch can and the installation please!

Go to page 1 and feel free to read through the installation. If you still have any questions, I would be more than happy to help.