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I need to drain the gas tank. Does the filler neck have a baffle?

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#1 ·
Just like the title says, I've got 3/4s of a tank of eleven month old gas and a P1399 (random misfire, remember, it's and Acura CL now due to the driveline, ECU swap). It's possible that I have a dud coil but I didn't notice any rpm change when unplugging them one by one. Is eleven months long enough for gas to go bad? I'm thinking yes. I just realized the gas cap was loose all this time too so it wasn't even sealed. The engine seems to idle great but once you touch the gas or put a load on the motor it starts to misfire and ping. The CEL also starts flashing. So if I find I have to drain it, which I think I will, do I have to go in through the pump mount or can I go in through the filler neck? I'll be using a 12V electric fuel pump for a carbureted application and a long hose.
 
#2 ·
i tried that on a 98 Civic, couldn't get a hose down the filler tube so I pulled the pump and went at it that way. don't know about ODY though, presumably the same though.

I have cars that have much older gas in them, way past 11 months. but I do use Stabil fuel stabilizer. hard to say, but it's not a bad place to start... CL should use premium fuel too, so when you fill up, remember that.

Misfires on these engines have also been linked with valve lash adjustment or crappy plugs. I use Denso and NGK exclusively in all my cars.
 
#3 ·
It may not be the fuel, because if it is, even at idle, you should see signs of it. And you said its smooth at idle. Why not just let it idle until the fuel goes to 1/4 tank or even empty.

You can remove the bottom hose of the filler neck connected to the tank. But with 3/4 full it might be a little messy. Doable, but you need a big drain pan and 3 - 5 gal fuel containers. If you jack up the rear the tank will tilt a bit away from the hose nipple. When I had a fuel tank leak, first I though I wanted to drain the fuel tank too. But I chose to drive the car until its low enough that when the bottom hose was disconnected, no fuel came out.
 
#6 ·
I'll check it. I had a local guy that used to be the service manager at the local Honda dealership do the belt, seals, and valve adjustment for me. He left the dealership and started his own shop. I'd be surprised if he did it wrong and I'd be surprised if it jumped at first startup.
 
#7 ·
I decided to check the coils again. I found that unplugging #5 made no difference. I swapped in a good coil and it made no difference. Im halfway through a compression check (I had to leave to go to a cookout). That cylinder was the highest of the 3 I've checked at 185psi. The others were 175 and 180. It looks like I have a wiring issue.
 
#9 ·
Sounds like you won't have to drain the gas tank, after all, :D
Nice troubleshooting.
Hopefully you will be able to find the cause of that no-spark cyl and happy to hear it has really good compression.
Don't forget to put in another spark plug, since they can also fail, even newer ones.
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