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Identifying RES DVD protocol

6.1K views 20 replies 6 participants last post by  big.dog  
#1 ·
Hi,

I'm trying to get rid of DVD drive. I was able to display video from another source on the RES screen, but it only works when the original DVD signals to the head that it has a DVD in and the disk is playing. Otherwise the head would display one of the preset screens (CD controls, DVD loading, DVD error).
Somehow I got the idea that DVD talks to the head through GA-NET (IEBus) protocol. However this is not the case. There's serial communication going between the two, the DVDCOMM1 and DVDCOMM2 pins of DVD are really TX and RX.
Here are a few scope diagrams I captured:
1. This is what I believe is a keepalive ping from the head with a following data from DVD.


And this is a closeup of a keepalive response from DVD:


Now, my understanding is that without knowing what is the baudrate and hardware protocol, it's highly unlikely one can understand the communication. I attempted to listed to it using simple UART, but nothing human readable comes out. My estimation that the baudrate is somewhere around 4800b/s.
Anyone has knowledge of what the protocol is? And hopefully how to interpret it?
Thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
imwode, you are the first person to attempt to quantify this problem.

For years our forum members have tried to figure out the OEM RES screen and how to get video to play on it without the OEM DVD head. No dice.

I have not heard of anybody figuring out either the soft or hard protocols on this crazy Honda setup.

OF
 
#8 ·
Man, I am so interested in this. I'd like to keep the OEM RES while updating to a better DVD head unit.

Please keep us posted on how you are doing this.

OF
 
#9 ·
What I've done is a MCU pcb that communicates to the head. It has only one purpose - immediately report to the head that DVD disk is loaded; this way the head passes through video and audio signal. With a few more days and little addition to code this can be modified to process commands sent from RES remote control.

As it is now, the POC totally works, but to make it neat, I need to create a few PCBs, get a video source, make a connector, rewire the whole thing.

But the result will be close to connecting a $40 media player to AUX input as somebody suggested a few posts above, control it from the remote - same video on the same screen.

I had a lot of fun and AHA-moments (as well as face palm moments) during the week of doing this and had to jump start my car like four times as the battery is old and I drained it... But as for working application - I can of course do all of this, but what's the point? The fun is no longer here :) Time to move on.
 
#10 ·


This is what was involved. Highly unsafe - there's always +12V from the battery present on this connector - could fry a lot of things. Lucky it didn't happen. I was not able to find what type of the connector is used too, I 3D printed v0.1 of my own and it can be used to replace the stock one with little modification. But again, there's no simple and easy solution on how to do this - you have to be able to program MCU, read schematics, solder, use testing equipment and have tons of luck. Or - enjoy smokes and probably fires as well as some bills to get the car moving again :)
 
#11 ·
...there's no simple and easy solution on how to do this - you have to be able to program MCU, read schematics, solder, use testing equipment and have tons of luck. Or - enjoy smokes and probably fires as well as some bills to get the car moving again :)
Bummer; was hoping for something within my sphere of expertise. :(

OF
 
#13 ·
Oh, just wanted to put in a new, better DVD player and keep the overhead RES screen.

That said, the screens in our 2002 & 2003 vans are pretty puny! If I actually get a better DVD player, it might behoove me to get a better rear screen setup, too.

OF
 
#17 ·
Likewise!

So, again, why not a media player through AUX?
You're right. It's absolutely non-intrusive, and for those items we don't finish viewing, just bring it up to the hotel room.

In my best Yoda voice (ahem), "Truly, an AV Jedi Master, you are".

OF
 
#21 ·
I know this thread is pretty old so I understand if everyone has disappeared, but I bought a display from a junkyard with the intention of mounting it on my truck roof. I want to bypass all the Honda electronics and just use the output of the remote and the input of the screen running them through a separate computer (i.e raspberry pi). I'm having trouble finding information publicly about the wiring of the screen and boards. I'm wondering if you found a resource with some good digging, or if I should keep looking possibly reaching out to a Honda rep? I bought this today and through all this digging it was feeling impossible for a bit, then I figured out the wiring a little and it felt more possible, but this thread almost makes me feel like it will get done, at the very least thanks for the motivation boost.