With 15400-PLM-A01 no longer available, what is your favorite oil filter? I have heard a lot of positive things about FRAM XG7317 Ultra Synthetic. Amazon sells them for $7. Is there any other oil filter on the market than offers a better value?
Is there any better oil filter than FRAM XG7317 Ultra Synthetic?
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That's for an EaO17 (top video). We don't use that model of filter. I am amazed, though, that AmSOil is using the same bypass valve in that particular model (EaO17) as the Fram FE10575.
Aren't those two for full-size trucks? I don't think either is used on any Honda or Acura.
Anyways, I did not like the previous implementation of that same design when the Frams I cut open had an obvious casting flash ridge on the plastic valve that kept it from fully sealing. You could see light through it with a flashlight aimed through the other side of the filter stack. That's bad. I cut open a few, and ALL of them had that same lack-of-sealing defect ...
... and I hope they fixed that for current production, whoever is manufacturing the plastic portion of the bypass valve for filter manufacturers at large. It's good only if it seals properly.
The EaO13 I last cut apart (or currently Ea15K13, fits across all generations of Odyssey, Accords, and Civics with M20x1.5 threads) didn't use that plastic bypass valve getup. IIRC, it was a metal poppet with a spring integrated into the top plate (opposite of the ADBV), but it's been years since I cut one open.
Amazingly, the pleats in the EaO13, though tighter and more numerous than any Fram I've cut open, were not as generous as the earlier Honda OEM FilTech 15400-PLM-A01 filter that came with my 2002 EX. IIRC, that one also had an integrated-into-the-top-plate metal poppet bypass valve design.
Second video, regarding capacity...if all of them have enough capacity for an extended OCI, then it doesn't matter who is in first or last place, as they all hold enough contaminants during a chosen change interval to support the lube oil.
Same for flow restriction. If they all allow acceptable lube flow, from first to last place, through the end of an OCI, then all of those filters are good enough.
If I look at it that way, then for me the winner would be the Fram Endurance.
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Aren't those two for full-size trucks? I don't think either is used on any Honda or Acura.
Anyways, I did not like the previous implementation of that same design when the Frams I cut open had an obvious casting flash ridge on the plastic valve that kept it from fully sealing. You could see light through it with a flashlight aimed through the other side of the filter stack. That's bad. I cut open a few, and ALL of them had that same lack-of-sealing defect ...
... and I hope they fixed that for current production, whoever is manufacturing the plastic portion of the bypass valve for filter manufacturers at large. It's good only if it seals properly.
The EaO13 I last cut apart (or currently Ea15K13, fits across all generations of Odyssey, Accords, and Civics with M20x1.5 threads) didn't use that plastic bypass valve getup. IIRC, it was a metal poppet with a spring integrated into the top plate (opposite of the ADBV), but it's been years since I cut one open.
Amazingly, the pleats in the EaO13, though tighter and more numerous than any Fram I've cut open, were not as generous as the earlier Honda OEM FilTech 15400-PLM-A01 filter that came with my 2002 EX. IIRC, that one also had an integrated-into-the-top-plate metal poppet bypass valve design.
Second video, regarding capacity...if all of them have enough capacity for an extended OCI, then it doesn't matter who is in first or last place, as they all hold enough contaminants during a chosen change interval to support the lube oil.
Same for flow restriction. If they all allow acceptable lube flow, from first to last place, through the end of an OCI, then all of those filters are good enough.
If I look at it that way, then for me the winner would be the Fram Endurance.
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I made a comment about their whack ranking of flow rates and how that matters less. But the filtration results are undeniable and (so far) purolator boss or endurance definitely win. If people are geeking out enough to talk about oil filters, they are likely changing way too early, and may as well just get top filtration vs capacity - so seems like FRAM gets the win - but fails at marketing/doesn't want to get sued so "99+" is good enough. I do wish "brand rankings" would hype less and just like....test 3 filters bought from different locations/wal-marts. for all the work they did, sample size 1 is weak. they could just blend same filter oils for testing and it wouldn't be much additional cost - though I do appreciate the time/effort they spend on each filter test.
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You are already putting the car on stands to remove the oil. With the tire off you can actually sit inside the wheelwell when doing the filter. It's well worth the extra step, and as a bonus you can check your break pad wear!
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Amen!
Mine was just an OEM 4x4, no mods, no lift. Just simple to do basic under-the-truck maintenance.
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I change oil on ramps - I think it's a lot easier than jackstands.
Who da f is putting the van on jackstands just to change the oil? Bruh...
I don't own ramps.
get ya some!
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I just got a set of Race Ramps for our trio of family Civics. The ones I just got have a 1,500-lb. rating (each ramp), but it appears the company did more testing and uprated the same model to 2,500-lbs. apiece.
I'm still going to only use them for the "less weighty" vehicles like our sedans, and stick to the Rhino Ramps for our Odyssey.
Before anybody says "You paid over $600 for these??!!" ... I didn't. Local dirt track racer cleaning out his garage. I had zero idea they had such a high retail price
, and he sold them to me for a "I need space in my shop" price ....... like about the cost of a tank of 87 octane gas in my Odyssey.
Just really grateful for my good fortune of late with Facebook Marketplace, as in level of gratefulness that makes you think "Man, I should be on my knees praying thanks for these latest helpful purchases."
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Maybe I'm just leery of ramps because the ones my dad had were a bit steep (so they didn't work for my car at the time anyway) but when you'd go up you're REALLY going up, and then you'd get to the top and lurch forward. They were metal and instead of flat on top they had a concave spot to help "hold" the tire in place I guess, which I'm sure greatly contributed to the lurch. Rather unnerving, and I just didn't like it.
I do.
Easy there, Ted Bundy. Buy ramps.
Mine have a weight rating of like 20,000lbs. I also made them myself with 2x10"s. 😆I just got a set of Race Ramps for our trio of family Civics. The ones I just got have a 1,500-lb. rating (each ramp), but it appears the company did more testing and uprated the same model to 2,500-lbs. apiece.
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I'm still going to only use them for the "less weighty" vehicles like our sedans, and stick to the Rhino Ramps for our Odyssey.
Before anybody says "You paid over $600 for these??!!" ... I didn't. Local dirt track racer cleaning out his garage. I had zero idea they had such a high retail price
... like about the cost of a tank of 87 octane gas in my Odyssey.
Just really grateful for my good fortune of late with Facebook Marketplace, as in level of gratefulness that makes you think "Man, I should be on my knees praying thanks for these latest helpful purchases."
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followed this guy's template/DIY page: Do-It-Yourself wooden car ramps | AZoffroading.com
I bought a set of metal ramps when I was a youngster, and I didn't care for them, either. But the plastic ones have been good for me.
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More like 20-buh-zillion pounds!
I've used made-from-wood ramps before. Totally confidence-inspiring. The Grand Canyon will collapse before those ramps quit on you.
Well, now that we've figured out some great oil filters in this thread (better than XG7317), I think anybody could read this thread and say "Those Odyssey guys rock! I've never picked up a wrench, but now with all this awesome info I could open up my own oil change shop... HOOAH!!!"
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It's late but... I have had excellent success with Purolator One filter on both my Odysseys. I had read a study on a reputable site that the filter is very well made and the silicone backflow thing is very good. I even supply it to my mechanic when he does the oil change. Car Shop filters are not impressive.
based on some experts, regular one is good enough for normal driving, Wix XP is for towing task.
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