[gray]

hi everyone - installed my max muzzler last weekend before taking a long trip to see family, and it worked perfect! no eco light and no more jerky/invasive vcm transitions. max preset mine to 90, and the engine temp needle is about one full needle thickness lower than pre-muzzle. max's customer service and follow-up is 5-stars, and i'd happily refer him to any honda owner with vcm.

before putting the muzzle on, the transmission fluid with changed as well as an oil change (i believe the first time my van ever received full synthetic). it's a night & day difference in terms of how the engine feels/behaves, as well as the shifting is smoother. i just picked up my 2015 EX-L last month and it has 32k miles. thank you to everyone on the forum for being so helpful, or i would not have known about this simple but necessary modification. plus the k&n filter makes me believe i've netted out any reduction in mpg LOL. oh, speaking of that...i averaged 29.1mph on the 60-mile commute to the in-laws, and 29.2mph on the return trip (cruise set at 70mph).

thanks again max!

 

[MrStag]

Got mine and installed it last week, have yet to see the eco light come on. Super easy installation. Came with a guide for other settings if needed. Definitely worth the piece of mind, Thanks again!

 

[NJODY23]

Hi All,
I installed the maxmuzzler about 2 weeks ago. Received it quick, Super easy to install and Max is great help A+++++ customer service. Just have a question for the people that have it. When your Odyssey is idling for a little, do you see the ECO come on a few times? This happens to me at 92 ohms (how Max sent it), then I tried 95 ohms and 100 ohms and it still happens. Is this normal or should I keep increasing the resistor value?
Thanks

 

[maxud]

Hi All,
I installed the maxmuzzler about 2 weeks ago. Received it quick, Super easy to install and Max is great help A+++++ customer service. Just have a question for the people that have it. When your Odyssey is idling for a little, do you see the ECO come on a few times? This happens to me at 92 ohms (how Max sent it), then I tried 95 ohms and 100 ohms and it still happens. Is this normal or should I keep increasing the resistor value?
Thanks

you can definitely go higher in terms of resistance. I would not go higher than 120 ohms, unless you are able to monitor the ECTS1 sensor temperature via OBD2 port.
The only risk here is throwing P0128 code and then you will know that you need to back the resistance down a bit.

 

[NJODY23]

you can definitely go higher in terms of resistance. I would not go higher than 120 ohms, unless you are able to monitor the ECTS1 sensor temperature via OBD2 port.
The only risk here is throwing P0128 code and then you will know that you need to back the resistance down a bit.

If this is normal operation I'll just leave it alone, or are other people not seeing the ECO light at all?

 

[maxud]

If this is normal operation I'll just leave it alone, or are other people not seeing the ECO light at all?

I hope others respond as well. If you are always seeing ECO light while idling, then increase resistance to 110 ohm and observe.
Its not abnormal to see ECO once in a while, but it should be the exception rather than the rule.

 

[NJODY23]

I hope others respond as well. If you are always seeing ECO light while idling, then increase resistance to 110 ohm and observe.
Its not abnormal to see ECO once in a while, but it should be the exception rather than the rule.

Hopefully other people can chime in.
Thanks

 

[quickbolt]

Hopefully other people can chime in.
Thanks

Forewarning: I don't have Max's version of Muzzler (I have VCMuzzler II) but operation is the same apart from how the resistor is adjusted to my knowledge. With that out of the way, I have the red resistor (100 ohms I believe) and I live in California (its getting warm now 70-80 F). Usually after 15-20mins city driving (stop and go) traffic the Eco light will flash. Also, I recently had issue with eco light appearing more often then when I bought it (6months ago). Link below will detail my assessment.

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-2005-2010-odyssey/337969-vcmuzzler-tip-newbies.html

 

[NJODY23]

Forewarning: I don't have Max's version of Muzzler (I have VCMuzzler II) but operation is the same apart from how the resistor is adjusted to my knowledge. With that out of the way, I have the red resistor (100 ohms I believe) and I live in California (its getting warm now 70-80 F). Usually after 15-20mins city driving (stop and go) traffic the Eco light will flash. Also, I recently had issue with eco light appearing more often then when I bought it (6months ago). Link below will detail my assessment.

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-2005-2010-odyssey/337969-vcmuzzler-tip-newbies.html

Thanks

 

[oldskewel]

If there are doubts about resistance setting, one of the first things I would do is to measure the actual resistance with a multimeter. You'll need to open the circuit or completely remove the item to do it. Otherwise, it could be that you think you've got 100 Ohms and only have 80, or something else.

Here's a data point to consider.

I built my own resistor a few years ago, and measured it at 77 Ohms. In the years of driving it since then, in NorCal, with summer temps usually around 80, the ECO light has only come on one time. Last July, I had just finished a few-thousand-foot climb in Nevada, headed back to CA, loaded with a few hundred lbs of building materials. No ECO light on the way up the mountain, but after cresting the peak everything was warmed up pretty well, and with things coasting on the way down, I guess the cooling system was not cooling so much, and things got just warm enough to make the ECO light flicker for a minute or so. Then it went off and stayed off. I'm glad it came on at least to let me know it's still there.

So again, with a 77 Ohm resistor, that is the one and only time that the ECO light came on in a few years, on my 2011 LX. A pretty extreme example.

So that's why I suggest measuring resistance, if you're having the light come on frequently with a nominal 100 Ohms.

 

[maxud]

Since I use variable resistor in my Muzzler, I provide a conversion chart between dial value and corresponding resistance. I take five measurements 82, 90, 100, 110 and 120 ohm and provide appoximate dial positions for them. I use a fluke multimeter and each muzzler is spec'd before its shipped out.
If you are going to verify resistance, I ask that you do it very carefully and use smallest possible leads. If you stick a thick wire into female connecter, you risk spreading it and creating a future contact problem.
Each car is slightly different and the resistance that works for one, may not work for another.

 

[NJODY23]

If there are doubts about resistance setting, one of the first things I would do is to measure the actual resistance with a multimeter. You'll need to open the circuit or completely remove the item to do it. Otherwise, it could be that you think you've got 100 Ohms and only have 80, or something else.

Here's a data point to consider.

I built my own resistor a few years ago, and measured it at 77 Ohms. In the years of driving it since then, in NorCal, with summer temps usually around 80, the ECO light has only come on one time. Last July, I had just finished a few-thousand-foot climb in Nevada, headed back to CA, loaded with a few hundred lbs of building materials. No ECO light on the way up the mountain, but after cresting the peak everything was warmed up pretty well, and with things coasting on the way down, I guess the cooling system was not cooling so much, and things got just warm enough to make the ECO light flicker for a minute or so. Then it went off and stayed off. I'm glad it came on at least to let me know it's still there.

So again, with a 77 Ohm resistor, that is the one and only time that the ECO light came on in a few years, on my 2011 LX. A pretty extreme example.

So that's why I suggest measuring resistance, if you're having the light come on frequently with a nominal 100 Ohms.

Since I use variable resistor in my Muzzler, I provide a conversion chart between dial value and corresponding resistance. I take five measurements 82, 90, 100, 110 and 120 ohm and provide appoximate dial positions for them. I use a fluke multimeter and each muzzler is spec'd before its shipped out.
If you are going to verify resistance, I ask that you do it very carefully and use smallest possible leads. If you stick a thick wire into female connecter, you risk spreading it and creating a future contact problem.
Each car is slightly different and the resistance that works for one, may not work for another.

Under normal driving I do not see it at all. If I stop at a store or waiting for the wife to come out of work and I leave it idling, then once I start driving I see it a few times. Would that be normal operation? That's all I'm asking.
Thanks

 

[maxud]

Under normal driving I do not see it at all. If I stop at a store or waiting for the wife to come out of work and I leave it idling, then once I start driving I see it a few times. Would that be normal operation? That's all I'm asking.
Thanks

short answer - yes

 

[dvpatel]

Under normal driving I do not see it at all. If I stop at a store or waiting for the wife to come out of work and I leave it idling, then once I start driving I see it a few times. Would that be normal operation? That's all I'm asking.
Thanks

Yes. I have the VCMuzzler and if I am in too much stop and go traffic, my ECO light turns on (and off as needed) till I get on a stretch of open road. You are overthinking this. That is normal operation for both of these products VCMuzzler and Maxmuzzler.

 

[NJODY23]

Yes. I have the VCMuzzler and if I am in too much stop and go traffic, my ECO light turns on (and off as needed) till I get on a stretch of open road. You are overthinking this. That is normal operation for both of these products VCMuzzler and Maxmuzzler.

Thank you.

 

[maxud]

Travel advisory. I will be out for about a week. I will answer PM's best I can, but maybe slower than usual.

 

[Diggety]

Got my Muzzler installed without issue. After a couple days everything seems great. Thanks Max!

 

[2longhunt]

I would like to order a Maxmuzzler. I'll send you a pm maxud.

 

[danz75]

Want to give a shout out to maxud. Had some issues with USPS even thought maxud had put the correct address on the envelope clearly. Was able to get it sorted out with maxud's help and got the package a couple of days later. Installed it and has been running as expected.

 

[2longhunt]

Got our Maxmuzzler a few days ago for our 2011 Odyssey TE and it works fine with no ECO light coming on. Thanks Max.